| Author |
Message |
abrickinthewall
Somniologist
Posts: 185
Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Last Visit: 28 Dec 2003
Location: california |
 Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 3:32 am Post subject: drugs in dreams |
 |
|
| Anybody here ever experiment with drugs in a dream? I have smoked marijuana several times in dreams, and the effects are very similar to those in real life.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ty2k55
Novice dreamer
Posts: 17
Joined: 13 Sep 2002
Last Visit: 22 Sep 2006
|
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 6:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I have never experimented with drugs in a Lucid dream becuase they are few and far between, but recently I had a dream where I popped some pills. The only drug I have ever done besides caffine is marijuana so the pills I popped gave me the effect of being stoned. I have a feeling If I did any drug in a dream it would feel just like weed cause I haven't experinced any other type of high In my waking life so my subconsious has no other model to go by.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tapir
flying mod
Posts: 1082
Joined: 16 May 2002
Last Visit: 29 Jan 2010
Location: Germany |
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 7:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
In my non-LDs, I have taken quite a lot drugs.
My experiences so far:
Alcohol is pretty much the same as in real life (but often very strong).I often have alcohol dreams after going to sleep drunk, but also if I am not under drug influence.
Weed is also similiar to the real thing, although not as much as alcohol.
Coffee I once felt quite strong in a dream.I ate a huge coffee bean, and afterwards the dream got more vivid and my senses sharpened.I also felt stronger in the dream.I can´t really compare it to real life, since coffee only makes me tired.But I believe to most people coffee feels similiar like in my dream
Mushrooms have strange effects on me.I have never taken them IRL, so probably they are just like I imagine them to be.They gave me halus in some dreams, in others not.One or two time I was sure that I am going crazy, but it wasn´t really frightening.
Acid I only took one time in a dream (and never IRL).Someone put liquid acid on my body, and the parts it touched went kinda numb, but it was a pleasant light feeling.
Then I closed my eyes and saw nice colours.
One time I had a nightmare/bad trip.I don´t know what I took in that one, since the dream started as I was already high.Anyway, to me it felt like mushrooms.At first it wasn´t that strange, I just got a bit annoyed with people talking to me, since I wanted to sit somewhere in silence.
At some point it turned into a nightmare, visions really hit me.I saw friends of me dying or dead.All the time, I knew it wasn´t real (I think one part of me knew it was a dream, the other one knew it were drug induced visions).
Still it was really bad.At one time I screamed out loud, and the sound of my own scream was so high pitched, it was a totally inhuman shrieking.
Traumgänger
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YourWorstNightmare
Novice dreamer
Posts: 19
Joined: 05 Apr 2003
Last Visit: 20 May 2005
|
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 8:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I find it very suprising that you actually use drugs IRL.  I will never use them (apart from alcohol and caffeine), and I wonder, why do you? I know there is a temporary positive effect, but the risk of getting addicted, the disadvantages for my body is what keeps me from using them...
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
FireHorse
Lucid Swimmer
Posts: 288
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Last Visit: 10 Apr 2013
Location: USA |
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 8:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I never used to dream about smoking weed until I quit, and it's a raw deal because then I wake up with a Major Jones! :sneaksneak:
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jack
Dream Diety
Age: 39
Posts: 2103
Joined: 15 May 2002
Last Visit: 22 May 2006
Location: Bedroom Kingdom |
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 9:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There are no proven disadvantages if it comes to pot.Actually in a few yrs we might get to know that marihuana is another miracle medicine.Its bit off topic so i wont coninue:)
take care
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
abrickinthewall
Somniologist
Posts: 185
Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Last Visit: 28 Dec 2003
Location: california |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 12:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
| YourWorstNightmare wrote: |
| I find it very suprising that you actually use drugs IRL. I will never use them (apart from alcohol and caffeine), and I wonder, why do you? I know there is a temporary positive effect, but the risk of getting addicted, the disadvantages for my body is what keeps me from using them... |
I used to be afraid of marijuana when I was in d.a.r.e classes at school cause the government funded program told me that drugs would destroy my brain. But eventually I found the truth. Marijuana does not produce toxins that kill or wear out brain receptors (unlike alcohol). In fact, scientific studies will indicate that moderate marijuana smokers can develop a several point increase on their I.Q. scores, even more than non-smokers. My marijuana use is creative and spiritual, I use it to develop understanding, rather than an escape or a social tool.
The positive effect, for me at least, is far from temporary. After getting involved with marijuana my life took a radical turn for the better. I discovered self-analysis and methods of mental conditioning such as meditation and lucid dreaming.
Marijuana is hardly addictive. It is less so than caffiene. There are short-lived withdrawal symptoms as a result of ceasing chronic use. These include anxiety, tension, and decreased appetite. The symtoms are strongest in the first 10 days of abstinence and go away within a month.
Marijuana is taboo because it is illegal, the reason being, it is a device of the United States government and their twisted intentions. If marijuana was legal, people all over the country would grow it at their houses, and subsequently, purchase less alcohol and cigarettes. People wouldnt buy their drugs if they could grow them, and marijuana can be grown very easily in very large amounts. Tobacco and alcohol industries are gigantic, and support much of the economy. The tobacco industry, for example has enough power to control parts of the media, so that negative information about them cannot become public knowledge. The damaging effects on the delicately balanced American system could not be easily repaired as government control of a 'marijuana industry' would be futile.
Aside from all this, the cannabis plant is the number one resource on planet Earth. It can produce over 20,000 different marketable products. As a cash crop, it would replace trees for wood production, cotton for cloth production, and environmental damaging fuel resources. All this and it happens to take my consciousness to a deeper level. I say thanks Mother Nature, or God; whichever you believe.
Of course this is just a small amount of information on this subject; this is just some general info. that came off the top of my head to lead some misinformed minds to a better understanding.
Last edited by abrickinthewall on Wed May 14, 2003 2:50 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
FireHorse
Lucid Swimmer
Posts: 288
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Last Visit: 10 Apr 2013
Location: USA |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 2:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
Brick wrote,
| Quote: |
| Marijuana does not produce toxins that kill or wear out brain receptors (unlike alcohol). |
Slambing alcohool? I amb very disanointad with youb! (BURP!). 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
abrickinthewall
Somniologist
Posts: 185
Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Last Visit: 28 Dec 2003
Location: california |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 2:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
lol: very accurate Firehorse!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tripper
Lucid Initiate
Posts: 98
Joined: 05 May 2003
Last Visit: 28 Aug 2003
|
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 12:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have been smoking marijuana since 12 - now 29. It is so NOT addictive....i pig out for ages, don't touch for ages...makes no diff, don't hang, don't get nasty, and makes no diff to LD's in my experience. As for braincells....honor student...uni grad...top 15%of IQ's on planet. My brain seems more than fine !!!! Actually that bent self analysis make people far more evolved in my opinion. How many actually "know thyself" ???
I'd be far more concerned about the legal drugs !!! I call marijuana "god's cure-all"...lol.
*Just FYI a man named Robert Randall even got US Supreme court permission to smoke it legally, as it is proven to reduce intraoccular pressure and thereby prolong eyesight in glaucoma patients". Better than any carrot ...lol - someone please tell me a legit benefit of alcohol or tobacco. HHHmmmmm - which ones should be illegal ....I wonder?*
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sage
Dream Deity
Posts: 604
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Last Visit: 13 Dec 2007
Location: Neither here nor there. |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 12:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Tripper wrote: |
| I have been smoking marijuana since 12 - now 29. It is so NOT addictive.... |
 LOL! I'm sorry, I know what you're saying, but that statement is still kind of funny. 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Cosmic Charlie
Novice dreamer
Posts: 30
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Last Visit: 22 Oct 2004
|
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 2:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ...Anyway...after becoming lucid, I've looked (then consequently found) drugs. I havent felt any affect yet but I think I know why. When I do them, I think "I'll smoke this and see what happens". I suspect that if I strongly expect to feel the effects, then I will. Just like it can be difficult to summon someone or something once lucid and its easier to walk around a corner and expect them (or it) to be there. Am I making sense?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tripper
Lucid Initiate
Posts: 98
Joined: 05 May 2003
Last Visit: 28 Aug 2003
|
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 3:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hey Sage...lol.... I see your point! The diff being I don't feel the need to smoke it...I LIKE TO SMOKE IT...lol. It's a choice - not a compulsion.
Sometimes I do it daily for months - sometimes I don't bother with it for months. Now I generally do it every few weeks as I get more stoned that way...lol...and see it as a bit of a waste doing it flat out as I can't get bent.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tapir
flying mod
Posts: 1082
Joined: 16 May 2002
Last Visit: 29 Jan 2010
Location: Germany |
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 11:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
@WorstNightmare
Probably for similiar reasons for those you drink alcohol?
But I am not up to start a drug yes/no discussion in here, so back on topic 
This is a part from a dream I had last night:
... They give me some strange kind of cup, shaped like an egg cut in the middle.About the half of it is filled with sugar, the rest with some liquid.They tell me it is some alcoholic stuff with herbs in it.I swallow it, can´t remember how it tastes.
Anyway, after some time the effects starts, and it really feels a bit like alcohol&weed combined.I drink more of it, and after a while I am quite buzzed.However, it is quite mild.It doesn´t affect my thinking, but I get this drunken perception, together with the flimmering optic of thc.
Traumgänger
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ruaicles
New member
Posts: 2
Joined: 23 May 2003
Last Visit: 24 May 2003
|
| Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 6:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
i smoke all the time in my dreams.
one time, however, i ate mushrooms in a dream. if anyone out there has done mushrooms, tell me if my dream describes how it feels. i feel a wave come over me, and all of a sudden everything is distorted. the walls seem to move, people's faces melt off, and i keep thinking i control my surroundings. close?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
