Trying to quit smoking

Ok, another patch update. My physical cravings have gone down ALOT. I still have mental images of a burining cigarette, and I think about how nice it would be, but I’m doin’ ok. I slept with it on last night, and I had the most vivid dreams of my life. Exelent dream recall as well.

[color=indigo]I was waiting for my brother in the car right after school today, and some kid walks down to the sidewalk in front of it. He’s my age, if not younger, but he pulls out a pack of cigarettes in broad daylight, shakes it, and lights one up.

I really worry about people sometimes…[/color]

Ive got 2 friends that are smoking when they miht get a cigarette from older friends (yes Friends not “friends” :wink: )

or grab one from home.

I have taken a few tries and it made me even more against smoking.

They think it is “so cool”

I mean , if I were to do something other than my parents would want me to , just for the sake of it , I would rather take a jummy bottle of beer (yes i think it tastes good) or more :wink:

Heh, my parents are ok with me smoking or drinking as long as I’m honest with them. Do you think not being allowed makes people want to smoke?

I think im would encourage some and stop others , but the ones being stopped will most likely try soon or later.

A girl in my class hd a irthday party with drinking and her parents were in the neighboor house knowing it.

My parents aint that way , and I dont really like that.

But it is kinda “normal” too , that they aint like that.

And I feel that i have pretty much common sense in me , more than many in my grade (we were in denmark (easier to get beer and such) with the football team , i ahd 3 beers , a friend ended up at hospital :neutral: )

For some it is a point to do “not what youre mom tells u too !”

you could try wearing a rubber band around your wrist and snapping it really really hard every time you want a cigarette.

maybe not the best idea.

i smoked marijuana for about a year and had to quit because of what the smoke did to my lungs…

have you ever coughed up little solid blocks of mucus that are so thick that they get lodged in your throat… that you feel them slide all the way up when you hack on them?

My lungs must be full of them… it’s really nasty and terrible… maybe I just had bad luck because people seem like they can toke up their whole lives and not have too many health problems, but no not me.

Maybe it was because the weed was a really low quality too.

Unfortunately quitting weed is one thing, you just WANT it, but nicotine is more addictive than heroin. All I can tell you is if it doesn’t kill you of cancer, it will severely weaken your lungs… do you really want to have terrible lungs that make breathing and living a constant chore for something that doesn’t even SATISFY you?

It feels good because you are feeding withdrawals, it’s relaxing because your brain says I WANT NICOTINE … it’s supposed to be a stimulant! but people get so attached that it becomes relaxing instead… that’s messed up man.

Best of luck. Aside from high potency fresh hallucinagenic tobacco for spiritual purposes [like how Native Americans did it], there is no point in smoking. None. If you want to relax there are better ways. If you want stimulation there are better ways.

I sometimes wonder if the tobacco problems our nation has is a Native American curse for us ruining their lands… now smokers are ruining our air and far worse, their lungs… and the lungs of those immediately surrounding them.

Everytime I see someone smokig up I see a SMOKING PERSON… literally, a being that emits smoke… festering… smelly… decayed… smoking from pollution…

it’s a disturbing thing to watch. I wish all smokers well.

Best thing is to quit. Next best thing is harm reduction.

It’s hard to just fight off the desire to get stoned so … you have my sympathy.

[b]everytime you want to smoke because you feel bad, realize that the “high” of smoking is a TRADE OFF for the LOW of withdrawal… that this state of withdrawal is your base state each time you nurture the habit, that this is what you are doing to your mind…

if the withdrawal feels terrible, the smoke should be euphoric, absolutely blissful and transcendent… but it isn’t, is it?[/b]

you can fight through dude, you just have to win your mind. You have to have the atittude of success… that’s all.

Maybe, my parents never minded when I drank as long as they knew where I was and that I was safe, and of course now, I don’t even like drinking that much :content:

Depends, of course. My parents actually don’t mind if I smoke. They say I’ll puke and end up hating it anyway. I’m not going to do it, anyway. Kills my already asthmatic lungs and is bad for tennis. :razz:

Anyway, I’ve been following this story for a while and I never realized just how difficult it could be for some people to quit the addiction. Just don’t quit on yourself, there, DayLight! :smile:

In my personal experience, sports help. Working out, running, bicycling. It makes you feel good and healthy and psychologically it makes it easier to stay away from cigarettes because smoking and being sportive and fit are totally contradicting. Also things like running produce a “high”, and the endorphins that cause this high are a good substitute for smoking because nicotine also creates an elevation in endorphins.

:sadyes: That has got to be one of the most disgusting things ever. I smoke cannabis occasionally, and I think that happens with cannabis because it is an expectorant. I found it so gross, and it made such an impact on me, I actually drempt about it a few times.

I had a smoke last night, but I think I’m back on track…It’s getting hard… :bored:

I’ve been trying to get my mom to quit smoking like forever, but no luck. I wonder how much second-hand smoke I’ve inhaled over the years :bored:

Hang in there, Daylight! It might be tough, but don’t give up! :happy:

Good luck man.I’m smoking as well and i can tell you that it’s not that you want to smoke it’s cause (for me at least) you don’t have anything else to do,so if it comes to you again try to find something to do instead of smoking,and of course it’s because you’re used to it.
When i have nothing to do,i just take the pack of cigars and light one,then i think "why am i smoking??"and then i just think “I light it so i’ll do it!”
The other prob is that you don’t have a good DR.
F.e:It’s time i do a cigar before i go to sleep,i don’t remember not even one of my ND.When i don’t smoke ,i remember at least two of them.
So again good luck from me ,maybe some time i’ll try again to quit smoking :shy:

I’ve never had a poor dream recall problem with smoking, mabye it’s because you smoke more(you appear to be smoking cigars and I smoke cigarettes).

My parents are like that as well, and i never ever smoked a cigarette :tongue:

I also know of someone who handed their 8-9 year old daugther a cigarette when she asked about how it feels. Well, she never smoked again.

Sorry fir the off-topic question,but what is the difference between cigars and cigarettes?I smoke pre-made cigarettes(camel,prince,etc) not pot.

I really don’t know what difference there is in tobacco cultivation and production, the only ones I know are the obvious one, like cigarettes are filtered, cigars are not, cigarettes are smaller, etc.

I think cigarettes are also more ‘processed’ than cigars; more chemicals added, etc. I also seem to remember hearing that good cigars are hand made, so they don’t have all those bi-products and chemicals in them…of course, that doesn’t make them a healthy alternative to cigarettes :tongue:

Somethign i have been wondering about.

Was the indians peace pipe dangerous ?

Is tobacco plant itself harmfull ?

moved to lounge from tools and merged into the quitting smoking topic

Hey all,

Recently i quit smoking. I have tried cold turkey many times in the past, all of which failed. So this time i thought ‘why not try the patches’.

So all patched up a cigarette free i quit. The second night i was on the patches i noticed a distinct improvment in the clarity of my dreams and my ability to recall them. Normally i only remember one dream a night.

On thinking further about why the sudden increase in my ability i theorised that maybe the patches had some influence. So i changed my routine and started to place a fresh patch on just before i go to sleep and Bingo! the patches work.

I don’t know whether this is purely a unique result worth something only to myself, but i thought it’s worth a mention.

And for me personally and EXTRA reason to give up smoking. any thoughts?

Cheers,

Mo

It’s interesting that you mentioned this :smile:
I once asked a man about this at one of the stores around here which sells mostly First Nation (Indian) souvenirs, tobacco and other herbs, etc. He told me that Tobacco was only smoked at important cerimonies by a select few people. If someone wanted to just have a smoke, with no special cerimony or anything going on, they’d smoke what is called K’nic K’nic (I don’t think I’ve spelled that correctly :shy: ), which is made of leaves from fruit plants (blueberries, bear berries), willow bark, and other things like that. The reason is because tobacco was a scared plant, only to be smoked at an important event.
So, I don’ know if it is any less harmful (I would think so since they didn’t add any chemicals to it), however it was smoked much less than people smoke cigarettes today.