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odd2k horribly unmotivated

Posts: 432 Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Last Visit: 11 Feb 2006 Location: Norway |
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:38 pm Post subject: The BIG WILD Topic - Part X |
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After a lot of trying and failing, I finally figured out how to perform WILD.
I have tried the counting technique, as well as the visualising one. I have tried pretty much everything described in this topic.
Anyway, I figured out that by trying to invoce a sensation of falling, I can fall into a lucid dream. The other night I managed to "fall" for a while only two minutes after hitting the lights.
There is one disadvantage though: So far when I have tried this method, I have found myself lying down in the dream with my "eyes" closed as I enter it. Opening my eyes and getting on my feet has proven to be a difficult task. And as everyone knows, opening your eyes (or shutting them, then opening them) in an LD is very likely to wake you up...
edit: Would the falling sensation be in the same stage of WILD as the more common vibrations and HI? I mean, would it be in the same state of consciousness?
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-=JaSoN=- Somniologist

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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:35 am Post subject: |
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wow congratulations , it sounds great. You said you've done it after 2 mins of lying down with no prior sleep? or after about 5 hours?. Its interesting that just by getting that feeling, you don't have to have vibrations or SP or anything.
Keep us posted on your results with this method, it is interesting.
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odd2k horribly unmotivated

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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| You said you've done it after 2 mins of lying down with no prior sleep? or after about 5 hours? |
I did it once without prior sleep, although it didn't really work, I stopped falling at some point and woke up.
Some times when I use this "falling technique", I forget that I am entering a dream. I find myself in the dream (I'm sure this is just after having falled into it) but I do not remember that I just fell into it, or that it is a dream for that matter.
Oh, and it might just be that I have never actually succeeded with this technique, and that I only have used it within my dreams (dreaming about doing WILD). It is kind of hard to tell, I only use it when I am very drowsy and have just woken up. Still, I'm pretty sure I was awake that other night when I tried it without any prior sleep..
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Sleepyhead Dream Deity

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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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odd2k,
I have become lucid after experiencing this falling sensation, but I didn't set out with the intention of doing it. Many years ago when I was a little girl I used to be able to induce this feeling of falling just for the fun of it! I think inducing 'falling' to get lucid is a really good idea - you just have to overcome the initial fear of falling. I will try to remember to try this tonight.
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worm Heavy Metal Dreamer

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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:14 am Post subject: |
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i have problems with WILD...... i cant just concetrate.....
do you make WILD when you go sleep,or when you wake up at 3.00 and then do WILD ??
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moogle Could I be dreaming?

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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| It's better if you do it after 5-6 hours sleep according to Atheist.
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worm Heavy Metal Dreamer

Age: 22 Posts: 395 Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Last Visit: 20 Jan 2011 Location: Poland |
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:31 am Post subject: |
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somebody sucsesful with WILD??well,wild seems be good way,but it seems to be a little....wierd for me.....look:
i am in he bed....concetrate.....some wibrations..and in an LD ???
a little weird for me
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Æzen nonexist

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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Does anybody know what the (average) pattern of rem sleep activation and duration is? So i can plan my wild attempts more efficiently...
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-=JaSoN=- Somniologist

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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| No i don't think anyone knows exactly when it happens, but i know that the REM periods get longer as the night goes on. So the REM periods at like 7 are longer than they are at about 2 in the morning. Its best to wake yourself up after about 5-6 hours of sleep, that is when it is best to try and WILD.
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daysong Astral Explorer

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Last night I got a chance to do WILD; I had gone to sleep at around 12:00, and woke up at 6:00. As I fell to sleep, I started counting, "I am dreaming 1, I am dreaming 2," etc.
I had some HI but I don't think I ever felt the vibrations. I think somewhere after "I am dreaming 160" I lost it and fell asleep. I don't remember anything after that, except for the moment that I became lucid.
I was in the dream and suddenly realized, "Hey, I entered a dream without even knowing it." I think something in the dream may have triggered this realization, but I don't remember what. I lost lucidity pretty quickly.
Is this considered WILD? I was thinking no, since it seemed to be a DILD. Well, even if it wasn't a WILD, at least I got lucid
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-=JaSoN=- Somniologist

Posts: 116 Joined: 09 Jul 2002 Last Visit: 28 Jan 2013 Location: New York |
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hey every1,
Last night i had my first successful WILD, i wasn't trying to when i first went to sleep but i ended up having one. I fell asleep at my cousins house, and then woke up at about 5:00. Everyone was still awake so i hung out with them until they we all went back to sleep( now that i think about it, this is a WBTB method, wake up 5-6 hours, stay awake a while, go back to sleep). I wasn't thinking about having a WILD so i lost consciousness. I gained consciousness a little while later and i hear a real loud whistle type noise in my ears that wouldn't stop. I don't panic, i just lay there. After about 5 seconds my body starts to move around eventhough i am in SP, and i am thrown to the floor by some force. I open my eyes and i am in a dream .
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Atheist Hopelessly devoted

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| daysong wrote: |
I was in the dream and suddenly realized, "Hey, I entered a dream without even knowing it." I think something in the dream may have triggered this realization, ...
Is this considered WILD? |
I wouldn't say so, because it seems you were already dreaming normally before something triggered the lucidity, whereas WILD implies that you’re conscious during the entire process. Still, there’s a good chance all that counting and preparation for WILD was ultimately responsible for your LD, so it’s not like you failed.
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worm Heavy Metal Dreamer

Age: 22 Posts: 395 Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Last Visit: 20 Jan 2011 Location: Poland |
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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when i had 4 or 3 years,i liked to try "sleep" with open eyes
i legt on the bed and thinked about some things.Then i fell a sleep after some time.
the question is:can i try WILD with open eyes??
well i can't understand WILD......
the thing is:i relax,think aobut some things..and.....and.....i fal a sleep
what i am doing wrong????
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pav Dream Weaver

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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have a question:
how is WILD related to trance? I've heard that in a trance your body also is relaxed and "asleep" while mind is still awake, and you don't feel your body
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xplosive58 Somniologist

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| drug induced?
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