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moppe Somniologist

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Me to, I have Deja Vu a couple of times every week. It realy freaks me out.
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mystic Dream Templar

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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@ DeyBwah: That's some beautiful metaphorical language (as usual ) to describe the process of the development your true potential! The way you describe it, Deja Vus are more like subtle mystical experiences, satori, where one experiences Being in a flash. Very interesting way to interprete the phenomenon.. It fits perfectly
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DeyBwah Novice dreamer

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Mystic..
You and I seem to share a similar outlook on life
Deja Vu's are like subtle mystical experiences! I think the label "Deja Vu" closed my mind to some degree, I would just think of the word or hear it in my head rather than think or feel what it really is..
DeyBwah
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chi swordsman Lucid Initiate

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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:47 am Post subject: |
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interesting theory DeyBwah, just remember to accept all possibilities..
i'm sure you do already, but it just read a little overconvinced
i have a theory it could be precog that occurs a fraction of a second before or during the event..
some possible evidence:
in most cases it's more a feeling involving all senses (or maybe a 6th only?) rather than a visual/with thoughts? experience ie. actually remembering
sometimes there is the feeling that you thought about it happening a long time before the event (days for example)
but you can't (usually) pinpoint when you actually thought about it
even though the feeling seems so sure
finally, the way you can continue the dejavu sometimes by remaining in the (state of mind?)
ie. when you have dejavu, tell someone straight away, have dejavu that you told them...etc
it seems you can keep it coming which could mean you've found a precog state and are holding onto it for a bit....
your thoughts?
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dreamFIBRE Novice dreamer

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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:14 am Post subject: |
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ve been experiencing dejavues since i was little.
however did something change over time. when i was a kid i thought
'i saw this before'. when i grew older it started to occur like 'i know
that i was like this before thinking i saw this before' [on the double- get it?]
and it has increased ever since until i felt like my mind was
looking into the infinite variations of existence.
... and now... when i have a dejavue its like... being one. like a child.
with the awareness that everything is the way it is because it is the way it is.
oh. what i think dejavues are? i dont know.
could be that you experience two [or lots more ;P] timelines / dimensions at the same time.
or that they merge. or that memories from past incarnations arise.
existence is infinite , so everything you do exists in infinite different variations
and infinitly the same as well...
for me, when something out of a dream reoccurs in the awake its actualy a different
feeling to a dejavue.
[this is actually just a copy of what i wrote over at the astralsociety
on this topic]
salaam.
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Dirk Somniologist

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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:35 am Post subject: |
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I really like this topic!
When I was younger, I had more dejavus, today the last time really has happened months ago. What is interesting, is that I have had many dejavus that were 'the same'. For example, when I was a young boy, and I played football, many times it happend that the ball would pass me in a certain way, which immediately induced a deja vu. That happened many times, every time in the exact same way!
It is really a strong feeling, almost like you are entering a whole new universe, in which the deja vu event is like happening all the time without a pause! When I have a strong deja vu, I really feel like being warped into some place where like time doesn't exist or something.
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realworld? Novice dreamer

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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:07 am Post subject: |
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i heard that deja vu was caused by a slight delay in sensory perception
i.e some of your senses react a fraction of a second slower causing your brain to think that you have done it before when actually it all happened at the point you experienced it
personally, i think this is the best explanation i have heard for it anyways
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EclipseFire Novice dreamer

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 3:02 am Post subject: |
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i heard that deja vu was caused by a slight delay in sensory perception
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Strange... If so, what explains having deja vu's in dreams?
I don't find them scary... Quite on the contrary, I long for them...
There are no words to describe that brief mindless state...
Now feeling that constantly...wow
heaven
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realworld? Novice dreamer

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Strange... If so, what explains having deja vu's in dreams? |
your minds re-creation of it.
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WindRunner Wanderer

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject: why u have DejaVu |
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| my friend once explained to my why u have DeJa Vu, i think he said he learned it it one of his advanced science classes....anyway....what he said is that for some reason the electrical signal from your eyes somehow goes through your part of the brain that is memory before it goes to the part that interpets the signal into what you see...so, when you see it, you think that your remembering seeing it, when it really has just gone through your memory first....i think it sounds like a very reasonable explination although i'm not sure if it is true or not.
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ViperX Somniologist

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ive been having loads of Deja vu lately, its really strange, but amazing, and I like getting it, because, I dont know really....
I had Deja-vu today strangely enough.....
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Presence of Light We are!

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Deja Vu (frustrating!) |
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Most of us have probably experienced Deja Vu at one point or another. But I experience it almost every other day!
It rarely comes up while the event is occuring, it's almost always the day after the event happened. I'll be thinking about it, and then boom, it hits me like a ton of bricks. "Damn, it sure feels like I've done that before".
It's also usually something obscure, like "so and so" coming into my room and talking with me, or me going to a certain persons house and doing a plain old boring thing there. Or sometimes I'll even remember a dream I just had when I wake up. "Hey, I think I had that dream before".
I'd be cool with it and all, but there are two things that really frustrate me. One, sometimes I really do remember something that I've done before that I just forgot about. Because of this, I'm often questioning whether or not I'm remembering something that happened before, or if my brain is feeding me junk. The other thing that really frustrates me is that sometimes I'll have a Deja Vu about something that I absolutely, positively, know without any doubt, didn't happen earlier. Yet, the feeling that I've done it before just doesn't go away! No matter how I try to rationalize with it.
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Yeah I do... but usually if I felt like something has had happened, it already has.... I don't have big problems wondering if it was a dream memory or something made up... etc.
For me movies really tend to do it... like... I saw the Matrix Revolutions, and .... upon leaving the theater I was like I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THAT ENDING BATTLE BEFORE
it felt like I had a LD in which I simply asked to see the ending of the movie or something... but what I don't know, is if that memory is just completely made up or not.
But my deja vu is always delayed, yes.... which could mean I/we have problems in the way our memories are stored... could be from erratic sleep cycles.
oh and this topic gave me deja vu too... becuase i know I just said this exact same thing that I said right now in another deja vu thread a few days ago.. but the topic started didn't seem to have the delayed deja vu that I do.
however it's ironic that your post would have been kind of similar to my remembered post, wherever it is.
The matrix has us.
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| It hits me the worst when I'm shopping--I think I'm overwhelmed by the vast number of items or something weird like that. Anyhow, does anybody ever feel like they are almost dreaming, but worse from the aspect that it's like you shouldn't even be where you are cause it feels abnormal? |
absolutely... dissociation.... it's usually when something bad happens to me and I feel like I could wake up...... or ... just in awkward social situations... like when I went over to my grandparents once and felt like I must have been tripping like crazy (not that i've ever had a drug induced trip though).... or like... sometimes in the store......
So I think being with other people triggers it. Sometimes I really do almost believe I'm dreaming but can't wake up... or are on the verge of waking up but are afraid to.
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EclipseFire Novice dreamer

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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| WindRunner wrote: |
| my friend once explained to my why u have DeJa Vu, i think he said he learned it it one of his advanced science classes....anyway....what he said is that for some reason the electrical signal from your eyes somehow goes through your part of the brain that is memory before it goes to the part that interpets the signal into what you see...so, when you see it, you think that your remembering seeing it, when it really has just gone through your memory first....i think it sounds like a very reasonable explination although i'm not sure if it is true or not. |
Yes, that sounds like the most feasable scientific explanation for a deja-vu...
on the other hand, how conclusive are the studies regarding this? Is it scientific fact that ALL deja-vu's are a 'malfunction' in the brains circuitry?
I have had some deja-vu's where I had done something similair in a dream, maybe the 'physical' actions weren't exactly the same but the 'vibe', the 'feeling' of the moment was the same. (hard to explain sorry)
I always say, 'I already did this in a dream', it's kind of different than a deja vu though, because I really find it hard to believe that I didn't actually dream it.
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Night's Light The Whisperer

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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: deja vu |
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| for a long time i have known what deja vu meant in my own mannor, feeling like you experienced a moment before or a feeling of familiarity of a moment in time that "you have been there before" etc. well ive never known why it happens or any other slightly logical meaning to it. why it happens, how it happens, etc. i just know that i get em alot at varying strenghts. so far, my strongest deja vu moment was during this past summer while lifeguarding at a pool. i was emptying trash from a trash can then it hit me "i been here before". right then and there, like it was a memory that i could remember, i knew that another lifeguard was going to come and ask me a question about something. so i turn around and there the is, the other lifeguard. she says "i got a question for you...(says question that i already knew what it was)". i didnt want to say "yea i already know what ur gonna say and (response to her question)", or tell her the answer to her question before she asked it, cuz that would freak her out. another moment in the past week when i had deja vu, i could almost pinpoint when i first had the unknowledgable "foresight" of this moment, which was in the spring of last year. all this was a bit hard to describe, my experiences, but i tried. anyone give any statements about deja vu or whatever?
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Qu Light

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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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deja vu about this topic merged you into the already existing deja vu topic
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