The BIG VILD Topic - Part I

[Nazca]

[R3TRO]

Hey i just noticed this VILD thingy, i think i will try it!

I believe!

[zizzerzazzer]

I'm good at visualizing things, and I think I have incubated dreams before. So I am going to try this out and I'll post my success. I plan to actually draw out the room I'm going to be visualizing. I'm rather artistically inclined so I feel like it would help me. Especially to keep the image solid, It tends to fluxuate too much when I try to imagine it on my own. Especially the thing or person I want to tell me to do a reality check, I don't want it randomly turning into something scary, because my mind has a tendency to do that. Too many horror movies

It sounds like a very good method, especially for people who naturally visualize things. I'm someone who uses daydreaming to relax before sleep as it is. Actually it's very rare that I don't daydream or visualize things while trying to sleep.

[1337-Dreamer]

I found a interesting url: http://svallens.com/epall/LucidDreaming.html

This page is describing MILD like this:

Step 1.) Recall the dream you just had as completely as you can.
Step 2.) Tell yourself that you're going to realize you're dreaming during a dream and concentrate on just that fact. If your mind wanders, gently return to your task.
Step 3.) Replay the dream you just had but add a twist. Imagine that at some point you realize that it's a dream for some reason (maybe seeing a dream-sign).
Step 4.) Repeat steps 2 and 3 until you think that you're actually dreaming.

Am i wrong when i say this is almost like VILD? what is the difference.. maybe somone have trouble visualizing things maybe can try this methode

[Pedro]

When I posted VILD 50% of ppl thot it was just MILD. The whole thing behind VILD is visually incubating a specific dream scenario which forces RCs. Therefore a high chance of lucidity. MILD is completely different tech. Although I must say you are very corret! If someone has ban visualisation they should probably not try too much with VILD as it is mainly visualisaing skills needed! MILD would be a better choice for those ppl. I knew that when I posted VILD... VILD is only designed for me and is perfect for the way MY mind works. BUT I'm still sure that there are PARTS of my VILD that ppl can find useful even if they are among the ppl who can't use VILD directly.

In a similar topic... I noticed that I always had more LDs when I tried MILD than WILD (before I developed VILD obviously!). Dunno why I mentioned that... what have you guys had more success with? MILD or WILD? I was gonna start trying WBTB in a few weeks but then I had my idea for VILD.

[1337-Dreamer]

another question.. when you say visualisation skills.. I can create a dream easily in my HEAD.. but not right at my eyelids.. is that visualisation skills? or do you have to manage to get objects etc.. directly at you eyelids.... i can also visualate things in my head while my eyes is opened..

[Pedro]

Visualisation skills is in your head but you imagine you can see them with your eyes. It doesn't have to relate to the real world you can see. I could say "imagine a ball flew over that fence" and the ball you could visualise would half to appear from behind the fence... but I could also say "imagine your mother's face" and you could probably just think of her face and nothing else as well... you don't have to make her pop over the fence lol. So when ppl say visualisation skills yeah they mean its in your head... but it's imaginging seeing it.

[1337-Dreamer]

ok.. so you mean that i dont have to directly see the images at my eyelids? If thats so.. im pretty good at visualisation In my head i can see my mother jumping over a fence as i write in the same time.. haha Id better try out VILD tonight then..

[R3TRO]

I'm horrid at visualization, could i improve that in a LD?

[dest]

Thanks for technique, Pedro It seems to be good, but i have problem:

I imagine my dream room every time, i imagine how my mom comes and says to do RC, i do RC, say to her: I AM DREAMING, and she says: Come throught that door...

I repeat it over and over, and when im near sleep, it gets VERY hard to stick at that mind. I mean i start thinking of skiing, smth else... If i try to push my mind back to that room, i dont remember what should my mom say and dont rememer nothing... I tried to do that, but i fell asleep, nothing happened, i didnt dream about that room...

Where's my problem ?

[dest]

oh, btw, i never dream about that whati was imagining about.. .I mean i never dream about film that i saw or friend that i saw that day. I always dream about such crazy things, like old classfriends, exploding flowers, dinosaurs :-/ bah... why is that ?

[moppe]

I will try do to this a couple of nights. I mean, I can't lose a LD of it?

[ilovelucid]

Pedro, almost one year later, your post still lives on. I just found this site a couple of days ago , but I tried your technique and it worked for me the very first night! I really appreciate what you've done here!

[BenDrummin58]

wow thats awesome ilovelucid...im happy for you!!!

[Element]

Cool, thanks for writing this pedro.. I'll try it tonight. Sounds like it's gonna work.