Astral Projection

[IceMistress]

I don't know if its ok to say it this way, But I did. I am Pagan. I tend to do this every once in a while , I have gotten really good at it . all I have to do is sit closed my eyes and I am out. I don't know if that is a good thing or not, but It worrks and no one bothers me when I do it. One time someone did and I got riped back into my body really fast it hurt

[Sureal]

A fair few people on here believe that OBE's (or, at least the majority of OBE's) are merely a sub type of an LD (such as a nightmare is a sub type of a ND).

You say you just close your eyes and leave your body? Well then, that puts you in a perfect position to do lots of experiments .

I've never had an OBE myself (nor have I every attempted to have one), so there's not much else I can say.

The only thing I can think of this: OBE's are meant to be harder to acheive then WILD's (I think that's correct - I may be wrong)... which implies you find yourself in SP a lot?

[wasisme]

im just posting now ill delete it if this forum has a delete feture or apollogize if it bothered anyone

[Anamcara]

Huh? Why would this bother anyone? If you are astral traveling you aren't the first. I believe it's possible....It would probably scare the s*** out of me though. So maybe that's why I haven't pursued it

[Trung Of Wu]

I've done it once. You're lucky if you can do it so easily. Don't fear, for people here really don't get offended that easily. It's more of a formality to try not to offend people. But yea.

I did mine by standing up during a WILD in progress.

[pootootoo]

hey Trung! du ma.... i didnt know you atral projected. I keep trying but no luck... Just vibrations..

[Iluminada]

IceMistress I think it's great that you can do this. I had a minimal experience once back when I was a teenager. that was about a year ago

If you can do that by just closing your eyes that's just incredible. Now, do you think by being a Pagan helped?

[Xetrov]

[GuardiaN]

I had been lucid dreaming a lot in 2003 and after reaching lucidity many times. Eventually I got tired of the idea, so I was wondering if anybody knows many different methods to invoke an OBE? I know there is a few methods on the website through a LD but they don't seem to work. For example, I know you must be sleeping on your back. Anybody?

[cvelee]

That is great,
James Randi and his foundation, they are waiting just for you. He believes in you, I believe in you... He has some huge amount of money (1M$) waiting for someone to prove ESP ability. So far, no-one has passed. I will quote
http://www.randi.org/research/faq.html
Between 1964 and 1982, Randi declared that over 650 people had applied [3]. Between 1997 and February 15, 2005, there had been a total of 360 official, notarized applications.
1.4. How many people have passed the preliminary test?

None. Most applicants never agree to a proper test protocol, so most are never tested.
I am sure that Randi likes fair-play...
Cvele

[Mohegan]

A friend of mine can do it that easily too, I tend to have trouble letting go. OBE's are different because they can be initiated through LDs/NDs which is why people feel they are just different forms of LD. Maybe they are.

Astral Projection is different is done from the conscious mind not the subconcious mind. I suppose you can liken it to WILD and OBE to DILD.

The difference with Astral Projection over OBE (for me at least) is the ability to watch what is going on in the real world, watch a friend do things, I can ring that person when afterwards to confirm what I saw was real. This has never happened in OBE for me it's just very dream like and harder to control and to my recollection have NEVER met other people/beings in OBE.

To me the two are completely different.

As for the pain, this was because of being pulled back into your body by a shock, a loud noise or maybe being touched. I've never personally experienced that, I tend to use ear plugs and lock my door to avoid being brought out of it early. But a friend (same one) has, she described it as being like a very bad migraine that passed quickly but remained as a dull throb for 10minutes.

[Anamcara]

I thought obe were the one's where you can see what's going on like when people experience trauma and leave their bodies.

[Mohegan]

Sometimes I think people mix up OBE, AP and remote viewing.

The problem with OBE/AP is there's no real guidelines as to which you are experiencing, I can only go by my experience. For all I know my OBEs are just whacky LDs lol.

But i know my APs (all few of them) I have been able to touch things, see things and something else I've never told anyone.

-- I used to read old books about people who were driving in their cars and suddenly they are above the vehicle watching themselves drive, these to me are Remote Views not OBE or AP.

It's a big grey area really, there's no right or wrong just your interpretation of it. Either way they are all fun

[Shem]

[mod edit]moved from lounge [/mod edit]
Sup y'all!

Astral Projection is my number 1 interest at the present moment.

It is when someone seperates his/her phsical and astral body, moving their conciousness into the astral. By doing this, you can travel anywhere in the world. Well...the universe really. (if you can believe that.)

So, yeah. Anyone else interested?

[mod edit]merged with an already existing topic of Astral Projection [/mod edit]

[NoahsArk]

Yeah, My brother actually went to some 72 hour class on it, he said the teacher was so cool, he said he actually saw him exerting energy through his fingers right before his eyes. he also told me, after things got going he saw all kinds of spirits in the room and stuff and learned how to astral travel better, hes told me about some of his dreams and that hes met people and stuff but he really hasnt had that many of them.