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Mystery00
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well dream walking isn't usually restricted to just one case. There are always multiple instenses.

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Lanina
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he means that not all his shifts are during sleep.

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Krueger
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shift sometimes... *ahem* into a hamster...

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Sepultura123
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but im sure this doesnt exist. Its only in your head.

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Draginvry
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Matrix obligatory "everything is in your head" post

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Lanina
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, yes, it's just in the head, but so are dreams. And you, Sepultra, are on a lucid dreaming forum.
But dreams, hallucinaitons and shifts are all very intresting, even though one could argue how important they are.

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Sepultura123
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks I know im on a LD forum.

Yeah dream are in OUR head but shifting is in YOUR head. thats different.

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Sock Puppet
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying that this forum should be strictly for lucid dreaming?

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Lanina
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sepultura123 wrote:

Yeah dream are in OUR head but shifting is in YOUR head. thats different.


So, just because it's not as common as other phenomenons, then they who feel this must be crazy?
There are all kinds of "crazy" things, but at least I admit that nothing else than my mind changes.

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Aikho
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sepultura123 wrote:
Sorry but im sure this doesnt exist. Its only in your head.
if you dont have anything positive to say dot say it, i could give countless links to sites explaining this, but take the one on the first page, its explaining enough.. search for therianthropy on wikipedia, whatever, but you cant draw conclutions that shifting is only in my head since you dont experience it..

and btw, the forum is Beyond Dreaming... you seem to forget that

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

may i remind everybody to respect each other, and if you don't have anything positive to contribute then please refrain from posting.

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Shaper
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an interesting thread yes
Some things I don't understand yet are; is shifting something like a trance like state? If so, how real does it feel? Is it real like real life or a lucid dream, or does it just seem like a daydream or a memory?

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Lanina
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the shifts I've experienced (mental shifts and dream shifts) are different from each other.

Dream shifts are when you turn into the animal side in a dream. It's not very hard to imagine how thats like.

But m-shifts are cool. The way I usually think gets replaced by a another way, and I guess you could call it a trance like state. I think that exactly how it feels varies between people and theriotypes (animal/other sides).
When I shift I don't think as much a human would. I can plan and remember, but I do it differently. Everything is seen from the perspective of a wolf, and instead of using sight primarily to understand the world, I care more about scents and sounds.
It can be very exhausting sometimes.

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Shaper
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like a really fascinating state of mind to be in. Maybe I'll give this a try smile

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Lanina
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as long as you don't force yourself. I don't think that's good. It should just come by it self.

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