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Iluminada Dreamer of Peace...

Age: 44 Posts: 2446 Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Last Visit: 08 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts USA |
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Now, I had to read this again and for some unkown reason, I understand it today.
I have questions, especially for Kenai and Lanina. You two seem to be the one's that embrace this completely.
By reading some of the article that was originally posted, and other explanations that are in this thread. What is the average age of a shifter? Doesn't it seem like shifting is something that can be learned by all rather than just having a keener sense of being something else? For example, people that are raised in the wild or amongst animals. Sure the cases are few and far between, but it happens. These people completely believe they are or belong to this animal.
I think I want to read more on how you two, and anyone else, came to the conclusion that you are 'weres'.
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Anamcara Jenius!

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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't consider myself a were just a "normal human being" as far as that goes but this thread is great. I have shape- shifted to a wolf in dreams (posted that before I'm sure) I love it! I think changing the way you look at things and react to a more animal state is possible for any human. It happens under stress. That's how we started out either you fight or flight. IMHO, I think feeling a closer link to one particular animal over others would have to have something to do with your spirit guides.
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Aikho The Forum Bear

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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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*Aikho agrees with Anamcara
-i don't have a clue what the average age of a were is, but most have their awakening (discovering it) at the last stages of puberty and most weres you find online is between the ages 15 and 20, but you can easily find others too, allthough there are many weres there are only this many in a comunity such as werelist.com
-i have not heard about anyone learning to shift, it comes naturaly, for most..
-Mabye they do, mabye some don't, i dont know as i was not raised by animals, or i was raised by animals, but not the sort you are talking about, but yeah, i would gess you are right about that.
as for the last line, I don't realy know myself, but the description found on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/therianthrope fits me quite well, it fits me much better than anyone in my class that have read through it..
and about Lanina, all i know is, she's a cute gir.. *cough* wolf you know what i mean
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Lanina Wolf and Dreamer

Age: 23 Posts: 616 Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Last Visit: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden. |
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if you look at the messageboards for these kind of people, they are mostly young. But I think this has more to do with the fact that the messageboards are on the internet, not that there isn't any older "weres" (I dislike that word, as it means "man").
I'm sometimes unsure of what I am, but therianthropy sometimes fits onto me. Sometimes I think that I must be crazy, or that I'm a lycanthrope.
Of course, shifting as in "special thinking and faster reflexes" can probably be learnt. But the bond to a certain animal is something that should come from inside.
I have transformed into different animals in dreams (like birds and cats) but I don't think that matters as long as I don't feel as much "home" as I do in the wolf form.
Oh, I'm just rambling. I'm really tired. Anyway, I hope that people won't try to "cure" me or get prejudices from this thread.
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Just because this is the Shifting thread, I was at the dentist's yesterday. And when I layed down in that chair and got laughing gas I held my hands just as if they were paws. Picture a dog lying on her back with the paws in the air.
My dentist thought it was wierd.
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Wyvern DREAMSTUCK

Age: 23 Posts: 1912 Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Last Visit: 17 May 2013 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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...This shifting thing gave me a lot of problems in grade 3.
It would occationally happen in grade 6 too... At the time I didn't know what it was.
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Iluminada Dreamer of Peace...

Age: 44 Posts: 2446 Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Last Visit: 08 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts USA |
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: |
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I don't think you're rambling Lanina, my curiousity has been peaked with this topic.
I would be concerned with people that would want to try and cure you too. Not too many people will understand that this is something others experience and embrace.
Wyvern: What exactly happened?
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Tggtt *le Timeout Master

Posts: 599 Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Last Visit: 13 May 2013 Location: Otterland |
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Wyvern, maybe we had suffered the same thing. I won't post any details, you shouldn't do it too if you like.
No offense but Warnings are needed. So...
WARNING
I'm not trying to underestimate the mind training and give respects for the ones who can do that great concentration.
It's very dangerous, getting into it may drive you crazy!
I do not recommend it's trial. It might be a key to madness that can get complicated advances through you subconciousness, and make you feel sick to live as a human, getting yourself as a sicky way of lycantropy.
(Lycantropy is a illness)
Even if you have a "second animal" it's only the second one, do never forget your first!.
Believe me, I do really know what I'm talkin about.
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Sock Puppet Con Artist

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I'm afraid that you do not know what you are talking about...
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Tggtt *le Timeout Master

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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:57 am Post subject: |
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I'm afraid that you do not know what you are talking about... |
I won't get off topic of the topic that all you own.
Just a Warning is needed. Why are you trying to make me tell details?
I don't want to disturb that topic! But other guests need a controversial, they need to be seeing that this might be very dangerous!
I hope we don't get into a misunderstanding. I'm not really that the technique is not a interesting thing, and it may not be amazing, I'm saying that's just like the fire... very beutiful, amazing, heat supply, useful, but dangerous and pollutant.
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Sock Puppet Con Artist

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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Spiritual therianthropy is not automatically the same as clinical lycanthropy, a mental illness in which an individual believes he or she belongs to or can change to another species. While some therianthropes believe they can take on the mindset of their "other side" in what is referred to as a mental shift, they usually believe that they retain control during these transformations and are no greater danger to themselves or others. |
That means that they will not forget what you refer as their "first" selves.
By the way, your "warnings" are not necessary. I suggest that you let them be, regardless of your concerns about them becoming "crazy".
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Tggtt *le Timeout Master

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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Please forgive my weird postings then, I didn't manage to get off topic.
Let's get talking about shifting the way it deserves!
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Sock Puppet Con Artist

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I understand that you are trying to warn them, but I think they might get angry when you say shifting is the key to madness. You're making it sound like they will easily fall into clinical lycanthropy when they decide to get into shifting.
By the way Tggtt, I wonder what you shifted into.
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Wyvern DREAMSTUCK

Age: 23 Posts: 1912 Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Last Visit: 17 May 2013 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:40 am Post subject: |
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In grade 3, I used to start acting wierd. I can't remember it all exactly but I would start growling and chasing people. I'm not sure what animal I was acting like. Then I would think after, "geez, why was I acting so stupid?" This led to people teasing me.
I thought that maybe it was some little faze but no. It happened in grade 6 too and I would think the same thing after. I'd be like wtf? It was such a strange state of mind to be in.
The last time I felt wierd like this was 2 years ago. It hasn't happened since and I hope it doesn't again. At least, not in public.
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Tggtt *le Timeout Master

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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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You're making it sound like they will easily fall into clinical lycanthropy when they decide to get into shifting.
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That's what i feared and I'm really very sorry about offtopic...
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Iluminada Dreamer of Peace...

Age: 44 Posts: 2446 Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Last Visit: 08 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts USA |
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I think I understand your warning Tggtt.
I think these guys are not inducing this but rather embracing this keener sense/awareness they have. Most of the 'shifting' I've read, or understood as, reference the dreaming state.
Nonetheless, it never hurts to put a 'warning' sticker on anything.
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