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whitemirror
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| wait... did i think of this similarity, or did someone else?
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Shaper
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You mean logic and religion both being man made? That was me 
Logic is also subjective, which means what makes sense to you might not make sense to someone else, and vice-versa. You may not see any evidence for god anywhere, but someone else may see signs of his existence, whether it be in the bible, nature, etc; thus it is logical that God exists to them but not to you or me 
EDIT - Corrected a spelling mistake 
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Lebowsk1
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, and that's why it is important to go through your logical systems and discover at least whether they contain any internal inconsistencies.
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Shaper
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Well, no religion....or any system of belief is perfect, because no matter how much we think we know, we really don't know that much about anything 
So at the end of the day I think a little faith and good judgment is called for, whether you choose to believe in a religion, a scientific theory, an ancient myth, etc.
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Azurescen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm, if god is a creator, and if we could learn to create things out of energy, wouldn't that make us gods in a sense? I dont really wanna say its possible yet, but Ive been getting really into healing and it seems that if you are an energy healer like jesus and many others have been, than you would be able to create at least something. Maybe we're all gods. Heh, no nevermind, thatll never pass in todays religions
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Lebowsk1
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Azure: if you are asking whether we are made in God's image then the answer is yes.
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Azurescen
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| I knew that already, well sorta, I think god is energy so really god is everything. But what Im trying to say is if we could create something out of nothing than we'd be god, because what has god done other than create us?
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Draginvry
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| we could create something out of nothing |
But in that case, would we really be creating something out of nothing? As you said, energy ("God") is omnipresent. We wouldn't really be creating something from nothing, we'd just be manipulating the pre-existing energy.
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Azurescen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, very correct, but what would it look like to others? Would they know about or see the energy before it took place? I think that to the view of society it would be as if creating something out of nothing. But to those who know, it would be simple manipulation of energy. I just try and put it within grasp of general public(you know the wired society) so they have a place to put it within their limited reality.
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Draginvry
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| Yes, very correct, but what would it look like to others? |
Theoretically, if you did some unexplainable display of great power, then your actions could only be described as a miracle. Let's say you created bread out of thin air. To someone who doesn't know how to manipulate energy in that way, you must appear as a god.
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Bruno
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| VeryGnawty wrote: |
| Theoretically, if you did some unexplainable display of great power, then your actions could only be described as a miracle. Let's say you created bread out of thin air. To someone who doesn't know how to manipulate energy in that way, you must appear as a god. |
Oooo, I like that image. This gives a new light to many religious books.
Reread some parts of tha bible with that in mind: enlightened people, not Gods, decided to help their not enlightened brothers. That's just beautiful.
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Shaper
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Wait a tick....how come it's always humans who are supposed to have been made in God's image? And since we know diddly about God (including whether there actually is one) how can we make such an assumption?
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Azurescen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| In my opinion, god is energy so energy is every image since energy is everything. So god is everything, and everywhere, just like they say.
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Kartikeya
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Oh, so many speculative thoughts. Must be very interesting (and completely useless in a same time) to wander trough endless labyrinth of mind playing just with syntax and word meanings. And when you find coincide amongst different words, according to rules of syntax, make conclusion that it is right thing (whatever that mean). Yea, right, but just about syntax not necessary about reality, which syntax in minds just tries to reflect.
Always looking in boring image of reality in our minds, and trying to match that image in mirror of mind with real object as it is; while reality flows along us to infinity.
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whitemirror
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| Azurescen wrote: |
| In my opinion, god is energy so energy is every image since energy is everything. So god is everything, and everywhere, just like they say. |
Assuming that if you mean "god" is the thing that created everything, god is everywhere, though I like to think energy is everywhere. Or did energy create everything?
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