You thought that you were dreaming, and that means its a LD. LD’s dont need to “feel” a lot different from ND’s, after all they are the same, only the awareness is different. Also, your thoughts won’t be very clear in all of your LD’s, certainly not at first, since it takes experience. Perhaps these dreams last night were only “pre-lucid” (where you acted like you were in a LD, and only knew it in the back of your head), but at least this means you are already close to getting the full-blown experience soon!
I remember I was flying very easily in my first LD. So it’s not a proof of non-lucidity.
What is very strange is that your recall seems to be very vague. The first one was lucid, as you said you realized you were dreaming. It was probably very low-lucid. The second one seems to be a prelucid dream.
You should perhaps make a RC when you become lucid, or shout “I’m lucid!”. It will probably give you the “kick” which was missing in your last dreams, what happens sometimes…
question… I had an experiance last night i got this cd where it almost hypnotizes you… i was lying there i couldnt go to sleep wasnt working so i finally fell asleep i then woke up at about 4 am for about 10 min sat there and thought about wanting a LD so then i went back to sleep all i remember was lying there on teh edge of my bed not being able to sleep kindof in an 1/2 1/2 state well then my wife moved and it was like SNAP i woke up on the other side of the bed holding her but i could have sworn i was just laying on the otherside hanging my arms over the bed. Funny thing was i was kindof awar but not… i couldnt move i remeber then i woke up was like WTF seriosly i felt myself lying off the bed then woke up somewhere different… Today my minds just been all crazy with LD thoughts… i want to LD so bad…! was that a step?
when i was lying there. i listening to the music and such i kept looking deeper and deeper… then i would see somthing like colors or an object all of the sudden… my heart would race … my eyes kept trying to open so i was holding them shut but not it was just i dont know how to explain all i know is when i did lyed down… i wasnt listening to the music
also… i couldnt move… i dont understand how you transgress to the point where you can move but not… i felt like if i opened my eyes or moved i really would how do you get past that
no help?
I’m thinking no one has replied, cos no one is really sure what to make of this 
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However, it does sound to me like you reach SP - which can be used for acheiving LD’s (in WILD). So yah - it’s a step in the right direction 
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Hi there!
This looks like a good topic to start with for me.
Not to long ago I met someone who gives dream interpetations.
Because of her I started to pay attention to my dreams and noticed that I sometimes changed them while I was dreaming.
When dreams are scary, ore when very bad memories come up in some way, I tel myself that I am dreaming, and do not want to see/dream about those things.
I think about something else, and the thing I was dreaming is gone.
Most of the time it does not change into what I was thinking about, but it does change.
This only happens when emotions are very strong.
Is this Lucid dreaming?
Ore just a way of subconsiously not dealing with memories of some kind?
(sorry for my bad grammar, I have to get into my english again, and that will take some time 
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Thanks!
Greetings From Eliane/December Spirit 
Well, if you tell yourself that you’re dreaming, then that implies you knew you were dreaming (though that is certain - you may have said it absent mindly).
Quite simply, ask yourself this: Did you know you were dreaming in those dreams? If the answer is yes, then you were lucid.
If the answer is no, then you weren’t.
If the answer is ‘I’m not sure’ then you probably weren’t.
If you were lucid, it sounds like a low level one. At any rate, it’s not to unusual to become lucid in nightmares to escape the problem (I know I use to when I was younger… though all I did was wake myself up).
Hope that helps you .
Thanks for your answer, I was lucid then.
I knew that I was dreaming, and decided to change the course of that part of the dream.
Low level, yes I think so too.
I never tried to become lucid, and never gave it any thought.
It must be normal that I do not control it very good.
I have a question.
And hope that its oke that I post it in this topic.
In those dreams, I seem to want to run away from certain things.
And because I am aware of dreaming at those points, I realy do run away.
My question is about this.
It seems to me dreams tell and learn you so much.
But if you can ‘run’ away for the more difficult parts, you do not cope with what you should learn and see.
Is lucid dreaming good for you then?
I am a little affraid of changing the proces people have when dealing with difficult things.
dreams are very important for that
LD’ing is very good for you, in confronting your fears (as you seem to wish to do).
Imagine this - you didn’t become lucid. As such, you thought the danger was real. You’d naturally run away to save yourself.
However, when you’re lucid you know there is no danger (well, in a low level LD you may still think you’re in danger) and so can confront the fear.
There are generally two paths you can take to confront your nightmares:
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Kill whatever is trying to harm you.
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Become friends with it (at this point, it usually transforms into something nice).
Choice number two is meant to be best for you, but choice number one is funner .
I See.
The dreams are not realy about something harming me.
although, its about memory`s about things that happend in my live.
And sometimes come back aswell.
Dreaming about those things cause fear, and pain. So I make myself dream about something else.
But I see your point.
Maybe the next time I dream about it, I can be aware of the fact that I can face it.
Another question
When you have been dreaming like this, do you rest the same way as when you are not lucid?
(my bad english is bothering me big time )
I mean, you are aware the whole time (can it be the whole time) So sleep is differend.
Do you understand what I mean? I cannot explain it fully right now, the words seem to be lost
Hi DecemberSpirit! Welcome to LD4all! 
Your nick and avatar are very poetic!
Generally speaking, lucid dreams don’t last very long. It’s rather rare when they last more than 5 minutes. Then you go back to a normal dream (in which you do no more realize you’re dreaming) or you wake up. So it doesn’t really modify your sleep schedule.
Did you notice any increase of awareness or vividity of the background when you control your dreams? Or did it happen quite naturally, without any dramatic change in your consciousness state? It seems that a lot of women can control their dream, though they are not really lucid dreaming. It’s perhaps a prelucid state, or they become lucid just during a few seconds, modify what they want, then go back to a normal dream. 
Well, just thought I’d post about this here… (I’ve already have 1 experience where I’m not sure it was lucid)
This was a few days ago. I was having this… weird dream yknow like they’re plotting something there’s no way out I’M GONNA DIE I’M GONNA DIE!!! Well jsut out of the blue I closed my eyes and thought… hey wait I’m dreaming and I told it to a DC and said “Think about it hard, we’re dreaming” and he said “Oh yeah” so I just did random stuff going where I wasn’t supposed to and stuff but one thing… I would try to fly or something if I was hhaving an LD so I’m not sure… I was at a relitively high level of lucidity though it lasted a while.
Hi Basilus West,
Thanks
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Mmm, I have to think about that.
I think most of the times I am only aware of myself and that I was making my dream.
Not of my surroundings, people there and other things like that.
The only thing I did was changing the course, and places.
Just like starting in the middle of a new story, the first one that jumpes into your mind.
I do not know if it was lucid ore not, it feels like natural, so then its not realy lucid I think
Its difficult to find this out, because the line between normal and lucid seems to be very thin and unclear.
It does not realy matter though, knowing what it exactly was.
I quess that it will become more clear after some time.
just curious what does your signature mean? and what kind of language is it?
(Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn!)
Hi r3sp4wn! Welcome on LD4all!
No doubt, you were lucid (as you knew you were dreaming, told it to a DC, assumed your lucidity level was rather high, etc.). Congrats for your first lucid dream! 
Generally speaking, this line is not so unclear. Most of the time, there is an increase in vividness of the dream, which seems suddenly very realistic. You feel like you’re present IN the dream, exactly the same as you feel present here and now in real life, but aware of the fact you’re dreaming. So, I suppose it was a very low level of lucidity.
But as you seem to be rather gifted, you should easily succeed in transforming this in higher lucid dreams. You should try the reality checks methods.
LOL ! It’s from an H.P. Lovecraft’s novel (The Call of Chtulhu). Chtulhu is an awful, evil, ancient deity who dreams the world. It’s written in an imaginary language, the R’lyehian. It means something like: in his home in R’lyeh Island, dead Chtulhu waits dreaming. 
Actually, I’ve had two, the oone I did not tell you about was weird… it was an LD inside an LD inside a ND .
Hi Basilus West,
It took me some time to give you an answer, I have been away for 2 days. But I also wanted to dream again, and see what exactly happens. So that I can explain myself better here. It did not work though, maybe because I had some stressfull days. I will try the reality check methods to see what happens.
A lot of people noticed that they are unlikely to have LD’s, or even remember dreams, when they’re stressed. Try autosuggestion before getting to sleep (repeating 20 times “This night, I’ll realize I’m dreaming” when relaxed, for instance) together with some well performed RC’s during day time (ask yourself if you’re really awake or dreaming, and imagine your RC will work before you perform it). It will give you better chances of having a LD.
Good luck! 
Basilus West, thanks again
My dream memory has returned last night, so that`s progress.
Yesterday I renewed my motivation with meditation and breathing exercises, and I think that is what helped me.
Autosuggestion is something that I am deffinitly going to try.
And today I really had the time to set up my RC plans,
So that is what I am going to do the coming time
Thanks