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SiY
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PostPosted: Thu 26 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Thnx for all the advice. Last night was unsuccessful. I Woke up at 6 (went to be at 1:00am) i read some Lucid dreaming stuff. After half an hour. I lay back down. Clamed my breathing got relaxed. my breathing got heavier. But because i had just read something. My mind was all over the place. I wasn't able to concentrate. I could see words and pages and other images. I could here a voice which i presume was my own trying to read what i could see out like i was speaking to someone. I found it hard to concenstrate and i was getting more and more agitated (sp). I eventually after 5 mins got too unsettled and just turned over and went to sleep. I think my best chance for a successful WILD will be at night when i first get in bed. As this is what i have had most success with (not a lot but some). I will try some of your techniques Dm7. I have tried the rolling one before when i got relaxed in my computer chair. It actually worked i visualised myself swing in the chair and kept imagining and it soon felt like i actually was it was getting stronger and stronger. And i eventually managed to swing full 180 to face the door but it was all like a dream. and so sureal i got too excited an woke up.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 May, 2005  Reply with quote

No problem. smile I WILDed this morning. Yay, but I have a hard time remembering my LD... not to mention my ND's. uhh

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May, 2005  Reply with quote

No luck last night. I did the deep breathing and the tensing and relaxing of the muscles. After that i felt like my body was heavy and relaxed. I started to just lay there and i tried the imagine rolling. My mind kept wondering but i brought it back and everytime i brought it back my body felt like it was going to either tingle or sink into my bed...but nothing ever happened. I lay their for 40 mins just trying to roll or just concentrate of my breathing but nothing came of it. I wonder how people can say within 5-10 mins they have SP? Lol beats me.

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May, 2005  Reply with quote

C_mon wrote:
No luck last night. I did the deep breathing and the tensing and relaxing of the muscles. After that i felt like my body was heavy and relaxed. I started to just lay there and i tried the imagine rolling. My mind kept wondering but i brought it back and everytime i brought it back my body felt like it was going to either tingle or sink into my bed...but nothing ever happened. I lay their for 40 mins just trying to roll or just concentrate of my breathing but nothing came of it. I wonder how people can say within 5-10 mins they have SP? Lol beats me.


You could try setting your alarm for say, six hours after you go to bed. Then when you awaken, shut your alarm off, get comfortable, and then try to WILD. You'll fall asleep much faster that way.


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PostPosted: Fri 27 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Hmm ill give it a go tonight....but i bet you ill wake up and go...right WILD time. Lay there for about 5-6 seconds and ill wake up another 4 hours later and go "Oh shoot i fell asleep" tounge2.

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May, 2005  Reply with quote

C_mon wrote:
Hmm ill give it a go tonight....but i bet you ill wake up and go...right WILD time. Lay there for about 5-6 seconds and ill wake up another 4 hours later and go "Oh shoot i fell asleep" tounge2.


Just don't let it happen by trying to keep awake in mind... as if you're afraid of falling asleep. I know I have been there sometimes when I don't feel like WILD'ing and fall asleep without trying, but I force myself to keep "awake" and it's amazing easy to induce a WILD... easier than I think... I always overestimate that it'd be hard.. but the more tired you are... the faster your body falls asleep and go back into a dream. wink5 So keep that in your mind. reallybiggrin


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PostPosted: Fri 27 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Well, i have on many occastions gone back into dreams that i was having but never really saw that as an opportunity to LD duh! But i will deffinately give it all ive got! Maybe i should try and set the dream up while doing WILD and hopefully i will "transport" into that dream i have set up for myself. Maybe a room with a door in that once im lucid i walk through to the rest of my dream? And in this room i could have RC written on the walls so i remember to RC. What do you think?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 May, 2005  Reply with quote

C_mon, sounds good. When I WILD it's usually from SP, so I have the leg up because I know when I'm about to go, so if I focus hard on an imaginary scene I'll transport right into it in the blink of an eye. I'm sure normal WILDs are this way too? Just don't lose your focus. smile

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PostPosted: Sat 28 May, 2005  Reply with quote

I fell asleep this morning, but practice makes perfect. If i keep trying i WILL achieve what i want.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Dm7 wrote:
Just don't let it happen by trying to keep awake in mind... as if you're afraid of falling asleep. I know I have been there sometimes when I don't feel like WILD'ing and fall asleep without trying, but I force myself to keep "awake" and it's amazing easy to induce a WILD... easier than I think... I always overestimate that it'd be hard.. but the more tired you are... the faster your body falls asleep and go back into a dream. wink5 So keep that in your mind. reallybiggrin


Yes, thinking it is hard does seem to be the biggest problem. If you think it is hard it will be. You wind up conceding defeat before you even start.

Another problem I have with WILD is boredom with a technique. If I use one for too long I lose patients with it and therefore fail. I have a number of techniques I use and switch them around a bit to combat the boredom.

C_mon

Rather than trying to do WILD right away perhaps you could put yourself into a state of alert relaxation. Don’t try to WILD. Instead, just observe what happens as you drift off to sleep. It is just a thought I got from a topic I read a week ago so I am just thinking out loud here but, you never know, it just might work.


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May, 2005  Reply with quote

I'm thinking of trying to WILD as soon as I hit the sheets tonight and if it fails, a definite WBTB. Heck, I might try and sleep on my back as soon as I get in bed too, but that's pretty scary... I only turn onto it if I wake up at 4:00ish and it's lighter out and the birds are chirping and it's all happy. colgate

Has anyone tried earplugs? I've used them in the past and what you get it your heart beat (thump thump) and breathing, nothing else. You can concentrate on one of the two and block all other noises out that might arouse you somewhat. Tomorrow is Sunday, so it's WILD day fo' sho'. I'll definitely have one by tomorrow morning. smile (See, positive outlook!)


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Skidzz wrote:
I'm thinking of trying to WILD as soon as I hit the sheets tonight


I did that last night.
It was interesting, I got to the point where I get really uncormfortable like always, but I kept going. Ii got soooooo bad I couldn't even lay still. I'd roll over and all of a sudden I'd be overcome with a wave of uncormfortableness to where it felt like my muscles were all 'buzzy'. When I did loose conciousness I was jerked back awake by myself. Once I got hit with it sooo hard it felt like someone had nudged me to push me over.
I'd have to roll over every few minutes, and every few minutes ther feeling would come back. It was too uncomfortable for me to lay still and try to WILD.
Has anyone else had this happen to them?


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Ai carumbah! (sp tounge2) My legs are soar enough to begin with. Neverless, I'm gonna check it out. I think I'll lay on my back, and if all else fails, I'll do it from SP (always works)

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Ok ill be more positive. Milod i have never tried to WILD really. I just lay aon my back and see what happens and see if i can get far enough to attempt WILD.

I must remeber WILD is easy very easy and i can do it. And LDing is easy, because people can even roll into their LD's so thats how easy it all is. I WILL HAVE A LUCID DREAM TONIGHT!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Bingo.

(But don't force it - don't be too over-exuberant. wink5 )


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