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mystic
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

Since the Mayans came up with the idea, perhaps a reasonable explanation can be found within the Mayan cosmological system? Check out the work of John Major Jenkins. Here's a little essay.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

As far as I know, the Mayan calander doesn't end on that date, it was just predicted that the world would come into a new 'phase' of existence. This has been misinterpreted as the end of the world by tonnes of historians and new hage people over the years.

My personal opinion....nothing big is going to happen, just another day in the life of me smile


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

While I am sure there are any number of reasons why the Mayans stopped their calendar at 2012 I highly doubt that laziness is among them.

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

Yeah, if they were lazy, why going through all the trouble of constructing such a remarkably exact cosmological system in the first place? It must have taken many decades to measure the rate of precession with such high accuracy. I'd call that awe-inspiring dedication, not laziness..

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

2001: A Space Odyssey, anyone?

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

December 21st 2012, is the Winter Solstice in 2012. This is the enddate of what is known as a great cycle in the Mayan Calendar. A cycle of 13 baktuns, each of 144,000 days each, that in turn create a 5125-year cycle coming to a close in 2012.

The Mayan calendar is indeed cyclical. 2012 represents not only the closure of a 5125-year cycle, but of a 26,000 year cycle, and an even larger 104,000 year cycle. This should be of at least some interest to all of us!

The years around 2012, are generally understood to be associated with a major transformation/shift of planetary consciousness. We already see this taking form, in the growth of a dreaming culture, that is just beginning here online through ld4all.

I think Mystic provided some cool info, in that article from John Major Jenkins!

Nick


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

Well the religious fundamentalist and the military industrial complex of the world will play up on the end of the world, armeggedon thing, to bolster their own membership support and coffers; but we who honor the dreamtime know that there is no beginning and no end, only dreaming.

Maybe it is an end to mechanical time. John Jenkins, in his research says that this has already happened in 1999, and if we look, with the growth of the internet, dream groups, and people coming together to shift the paradigm, maybe the shift in consciousness is gaining momentum.

Yes, 2001 A Space Oddessy and we got 911. So much for the old paradigm hanging on with its cat claws.

I believe that this time, Dec. 21, 2012, symbolizes the beginning of a new cycle of planetary consciousness and lucid awareness.

That day is a Crystal Day, Blue Crystal Hand, Kin 207. It is a Blue Resonant Storm year, 7th year in the Red Moon 13 year wave cycle. I was born in a Red Moon cycle, 53 years ago.

13 x 13 = 52

This new year, Yellow Cosmic Seed, kin 104, ends a 13 year cycle which started Yellow Magnetic Seed, Kin 144, 1993. This is when the 13 Moon Peace Calendar Change began, officially.

These 13 year cycles are key.

As a matter of fact this is the 130 year anniversary of a great dreaming pioneer, Carl Jung, who was born July 26, 1875, White Cosmic Wizard, Kin 234. He was in the 13 year White Wizard cycle that began July 26, 1863, towards the end of the Great Civil War in the United States.

13 year cycles:
Red Moon
White Wizard
Yellow Seed
Blue Storm

Carl Jung's collective 52 years cycle began July 26, 1850 and went up till July 25, 1902.

July 26, 1889 began the 13 year cycle of the rise of metaphysics, Yellow Magnetic Seed (planted and harvesting new ideas), the Chicago World's Fair, which Tesla displayed his robotic submarine. 1904 Aleister Crowley channeled the Book of the Law, which ushered in the New Aeon, a new 52 year cycle that begin with a 13 year Red Moon cycle of purification.

Just to show some ways we can use the 13 year cycle to predict and review the greater 52 year cycles, and the science of time.

So actually this next 52 year cycle in the Dreamspell will be July 26, 2006 to July 25, 2058. This cycle will end on the day out of time, Yellow Cosmic Star, Kin 208.

I believe we will be using the Dreamspell world-wide, the Gregorian calendar will be a thing of the past, and the science and dynamics of the Law of Time will be understood to a much greater degree.

I've seen the last 50 years building towards this.

52 was a very sacred number in the Mayan system.



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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

Has the Mayan Calender been 100% accurate thus far?

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Accuracy
PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

Aquatico wrote:
Has the Mayan Calender been 100% accurate thus far?


Well definitely more accurate than the Gregorian calendar, that is for sure. grin

Aquatico:
What is your Solar Seal?

A really good reference is from the Dec/Jan 2005 of The Mountain Astrologer, an article called "The Long and Short of the Mayan Calendar" by Bruce Scofield. Though he doesn't agree with Jose Arguelles Dreamspell, he does introduce and does a good job at the mathematics of the Mayans, which is pretty impressive. Like Jenkins (except a different date), Scofield says that the 12/21/2012 date is when our Solar System lines up with the Galactic Center of the Milky Way Galaxy, and that the Mayans mapped this our aeons ago.

Mathematically the Mayans were unsurpassed and they weren't even using computers.

http://www.mountainastrologer.com/bidpages/bid1204.ht ml
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The Long and Short of the Mayan Calendar
by Bruce Scofield

Much has been written about the "End Date" of the Mayan Calendar: December 21, 2012; it could signal the "end of days" or a breakthrough into higher consciousness. This author, an expert in Mesoamerican astrology, sets the record straight by clearly defining the Mayan Long Count and demythologizing its significance.



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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

That's interesting, I heard someone said somewhere that that date is when we enter "the 4th dimension" I have NO idea what that means. any help, and is it any good?

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

What I want to see is where all of the crazy fools, who thought the world would end on Jan 1 2000 and spent thousands of dollars on food and equipment, are now, and ask them if they feel stupid. That would be funny. tounge2

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

lol, that's horrible.

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Re: Accuracy
PostPosted: Tue 05 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

Sunwolf wrote:


Aquatico:
What is your Solar Seal?


What is that, and how can I find out what mine is?


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

http://www.tortuga.com/findkin.php
...and...
http://www.galactichardwarestore.com/calculator/mayan _calculator.php

are great spots for finding your solar seal/galactic signature

more information about solar seals and galactic signatures, or dreamspell in general, can be found in the dreamspell forum on ld4all, on my site or on reality failure's site


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jul, 2005  Reply with quote

I am a Red Magnet Serpent

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