I can’t seem to keep a schedule. I’ll never find another job if I can’t wake before 4PM. Worst of all, it’s limiting my dream potential.
Besides severely drugging yourself, are there any good cures for insomnia? I tried melatonin, but that made it worse. Diphenhydramine kills my dreams. I don’t even want to get into prescription sleep aids. I tried various foods and relaxation techniques. Nothing.
I want my dreams back. I want my fucking time back, too, if I ever mean to be successful. Dammit.
I had lots of trouble from insomnia and i tried many stuff except taking medication… and the only thing that worked (and worked very well for me), was keeping healthy sleep habits: only use the bed for sleep, and always go to bed at the same time, and always get up at the same time, even on weekends. Give it a try. If it doesn’t work, then maybe you should see a specialist?
Good luck 
first keep proper sleep habits
second tame your mind
Find out what hinders you to fall asleep and try to eliminate that. You must keep in mind that your body will take care of your sleep, as soon as your mind steps out of the way. you don’t have to do anything to sleep but you can do alot to keep you from sleeping. Most important: DO NOT think about sleep!!!
BTW I had terrible insommina for a year, I know what I’m talking about…
I was only able to sleep 4 hours 2 days ago, and that was thanks to some mixture one of the old neighbors told me. Try spending time outside, maybe take a walk, this helps out a bit sometimes.
I used to have horrible insomnia, then around 20 years ago I read a tip, the gist of this tip was:
Lay still, because just by laying quietly and thinking pleasant thoughts you are resting your body and your mind.
While not quite as refreshing as sleep, it is quite enough to keep you going and more importantly it takes the pressure off of trying to go to sleep.
Laying still and not fretting, try it.
Hyperion, I’ve got two cures for you.
Lay down in bed early, and practice using a WILD method. I find a lot of hidden fatigue will come up, especially if you can’t sleep for very long even though you get up at 4pm. Either you’ll be successful and get into an LD, or you’ll become tired enough to just fall asleep.
Stay up for the whole day. Yes, it will be agonizing, but if you can make it to at least 4-6pm, then you’ll be going to bed and getting up much earlier. From there, you’ll only have a few hours to adjust if you want to go to bed at 9 or 10pm.
I recommend a freezing cold shower when it’s becoming unbearable to stay up any longer. Don’t use caffeine… you’re trying to cure insomnia, not make it worse.
If I were you I’d excerises every day or something, to tire myself out. I’d go for walks, swim, lift weights, anything like that. Also using your brain for things like reading can tire you out very nicely. I’d stay away from drugs altogether, they just limit your REM sleep, which isn’t good at all for lucid dreaming.
I feel for you Hyperion. I know what it’s like to suffer from insomnia. I despise it.
I would do everything from cleaning the house to reading books and writing short stories to get to sleep. I eventually tried prescription sleep aides but I started doing the strangest things at night and seeing the most horrible sights that I stopped that. Then it stopped all of a sudden.
I can’t say I found a cure b/c it still comes back from time to time. But I stay away from the prescription stuff.
I will have cornflakes w/ warm milk and some sugar (splenda) but sugar is better. or a cup of chamomille tea w/ honey.
I laid in bed from 2:30AM till 7AM without success. Damn this sucks.
Maybe you should visit a sleep clinic?
Do you go to bed thinking and hoping that that night you don’t have insomnia? If so, maybe that’s part of your problem.
Try keeping yourself busy right up until the time to fall asleep. Even if it means doing things you normally wouldn’t. See how that helps.
Well it’s 1.20 AM here in Croatia and I can’t fall asleep…any ideas? I heard that warm milk gets you to sleep faster , is that true? Help 
yeah warm milk is supposed to make you sleepy… whenever i can’t sleep i just try to lay back and relax like try to wild or meditate
I tried that but I just can’t sleep…I think that I could go in the gym right now…Im bursting with energy and when you’re trying to get some sleep that isn’t good 
lol i know the feeling where you should be exhausted yet you just stare at the roof 
maybe do like you said do some exercise push ups, sit ups or whatever untill you just pass out 
or crawl to your bed
no I’m to lazy…I think ill just explore: The Magical and Misterious world of the World Wide Web 
Go read about the magical world of lucid dreams before you fall asleep i mean… there are plenty to read on the forums you could spend hours upon hours upon hours etc… reading all of the useful post then hey… you might even get a ld …maybe 
in any case have fun and sleep well
-lucid dreams
edit: oooh yeah… welcome to the forums
I actually meant to do that. Reading the posts on this forum i mean
thnx
Don’t you hate it when you get that one night after monthes of great sleep, where you just can’t seem to fall asleep? They make you tired in the morning and give you less time to sleep, and, to dream,therefore, less time to lucid dream.
I’m having one of those nights now and I’m sharing my fustrations. 
It’s too hot to drink some warm milk or tea, and I have to get up too early to just wait it out.
What do you guys do when this happens to you?
(to title) Me too! For quite a few weeks . It happens.
The guy next door suggested vanilla ice cream (which works, if I had any). Try walking around, do something mentally/physically exhausting (this can be good OR bad for LDing in my experience).