The BIG WILD topic - Part XIV

Hi RancidMilk,

When attempting WILD, not only will you experience hypnagogic imagery, but hypnagogic audio hallucinations as well! It’s just another sign you are getting closer to dream state.

I’ve heard bizarre things, too, including kids’ voices.

A few nights ago I could’ve sworn someone was playing the flute right next to me… :tongue:

RancidMilk, hypnagogic sounds and voices are very common. Here are 3 threads about that:
The list of WILD sounds
Hypnagogic sounds
Voices inside

I tried o do wild yesterday.
And counted from 0 to 84 or so.
And i started to feel that it would coswt me much to move my hands , like if you`ve got an extremely hard act of sports or running.
Is that the start of that palyze stadium ?
And is it a good or bad idea to count?
Should I change to mild?

The basis of WILD is that the body falls asleep but the mind stays awake.
A good way is to find yourself a object (basically anything) and you examine it for 5minutes or so, then try to imagine the object in your mind. And next time your trying to WILD try to relax your body and start focusing the object you chose.
Or another good choice is to focus on your heartbeat when trying to WILD, try to go deeper and deeper in your heart.
I heard these from another LD site, cant remember which one :tongue:

The paralyzing effect usually means that your body is fully relaxed, at least i think so :tongue:

All the best, Skale

Thanks!

I confronted a creature made from the stuff of nightmares while I was doing WILD.
I saw this very tall and skinny man with a black cloak and a white grinning carneval mask that had a nose that touched the floor. Even it’s finghers were like the white roots of an old oak, all twisted and long that touched the floor.
I estended a had to shake hands and it did the same,very slowly and I was very very tense.
Suddenly outside in the garden I heard a loud explosion, like that of a very loud firework or a bomb that would have broken the windows of my house if it hadn’t been an altered state of consciousness.
I woke up from the state truly freaked out!

I had another weird thing happen to me when trying to WILD. I was consentrating on relaxing and all that when I saw a dark figure at the foot of my bed(I had my eyes closed so I guess I was dreaming?). Then my bed started to shake violently. After that the figure moved over to the head of my bed. It looked like really old hunch back lady about 3-4 ft tall in a black cloak with a really long nose. And she had a crooked stick for a cane. Then she tilted her head to the side and kind of smiled. Then got scared and opened my eyes and everything was normal. It was very realistic.

[color=green]Hi RancidMilk

You might want to take a look at a topic called something like Evil female. Its a recent topic. But what you experianced is normal when a person is in SP. Altho, i wasnt in SP, i felt someone in my room was banging on my desk really hard a few times.[/color]

I wasn’t in SP, and I don’t even think I was dreaming as I saw everything with my mind’s eye.
Nevertheless it was a very close and tense thing.

Hey everyone !

Something funny (litteraly) happens when I practice WILD before going to bed : at one point (after a few cycles between awareness and drowsiness), I stop feeling my body, I have a slight free-fall sensation, and an intense euphoria grips me. Then I start smiling and giggling, and I can’t help it at all.
I wouldn’t call it SP though, because if I /want/ to move, I can. Then I become aware of my body again.
It’s not LD or FA either because I haven’t succeeded in falling asleep that way yet - and reality tests all fail.

Any similar experiences ?
Michael

hehehe
I wouldn’t want to change the experience if I were you.
Leave your wonderful WILD the way it is.
For LDs find an other technique.
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

That sounds interesting! Do you do anything in particular to achieve that?

mmestre, i’ve definetly felt that “free-fall” feeling you described (without actually concentrating on falling…). The feeling has come on so suddenly and intensely before, that it would bring me right back to complete body awareness/consciousness. Its definetly not a bad feeling, i’m sure if I could not get all surprised, and hold onto that feeling, I could describe it as somewhat euphoric :smile: (hmm, or maybe that’s my happy feelings of knowing I’m so close to entering a dream hehe)

yeah i have had a similar experience before; i remember smiling and giggling lke you in one of my cases, i also experienced some kind of euphoria.

Siiw : no, nothing in particular. It’s just an attempt to WILD without WBTB. I haven’t tried to combine it with WBTB yet, when I wake up i’m too tired to concentrate on staying awake.
Maybe it’s the feeling that it’s almost working that makes me euphoric. Actually, i already experienced the exact same feeling in one particular situation : a few years back, sitting in my shrink’s office, and suddenly understanding something about my subconscious - and then it seemed to me that something painful had unlocked in my mind, the mental equivalent of a splinter removed from your body. Happened a couple of times.

Michael

I once had the freefall feeling and when I reached the bottom I found myself in my room, but it was as if the dream was not stable yet (all the object were comformed from a serie of lights). Pretty wierd…

A pitty I could’t stabilize the situation…

Hey, I don’t know if this has been asked before, but I’ve been trying to start up LD again(been trying off and on for the past year or 2) and I get the closest with WILD.

  1. Is it common while you’re in sleep paralysis trying to WILD, that your muscles contract?(i.e. your arm flinches or leg kicks, etc)

2)How long on average does it take to enter a LD via WILD, especially for a beginner(Sometimes after about an hour or so if I get that far into it, I get a cramp or itch that has been driving me crazy so I decide to give up)

  1. Yes, it’s called myoclonic jerks. There are some threads about that on the forum.
  2. If you have a cramp, it’s probably because your relaxation technique is not such good. About itching, it disappears with experience: you should try to continue a little when you feel it. It’s said to be far easier to have a WILD if you practice WBTB. You don’t have to wait so long.

I always have some problem when trying WILD. About ten or so minutes into it, I feel as if my body is turning into liquid or a really heavy gas, starting from my toes and fingers going up into my extremities until the only part that feels solid is my head. It also feels really tingly, and I can’t seem to move, or want to move.

But every time I reach this stage, I always get a really dry throat or an itch on my leg, and I can’t ignore it… I have to cough or scratch it… Is it possible to do a WILD after dealing with these problems, or is it better just to ignore it as best as you can?

I think it’s better to ignore it the best you can. If you focus on another thing, it tends to disappear. I don’t know where the problem comes from, but I know it’s the same when you begin to practice relaxation. When you are more experienced, this problem no more occurs.