LD's drove my friend insane

From reading the thread…

This seems it coulda been a gift to the guy…

I would like to achieve this state, and maintain myself enough to not Seem like a total NUT JOB to society… don’t wanna be in a cell with padded walls :cool: … Like keep it under-wraps a bit. :wink:

But yeah, Wayne Dyer, talks in one his books in your life becoming Awake, and in the Dream state at the same time.

And totally agree with the observer thing(Wayne Dyer also talks about this). If your friend was just witnessing/observing what was happening to himself he would be a lot more chilled out and would come up with a solution to all of this.

Do you mean that you could be in a constant LD and could control everything but to everyone else it would look as if you were just acting normal?

To say LDs made your friend insane is like saying video games makes people violent.

A lot of people have already said things to the effect of what I’m about to say, so I’ll keep it fairly brief; view this as my drop in the collective bucket of this viewpoint.

It’s important to remember in all this that, although your friend’s schizophrenia was based on LDing, the disorder results from real, physical chemical imbalances in the brain (commonly thought to be of dopamine); as such, if your friend was going to become a schizophreniac, anything could’ve theoretically become the basis for his schizophrenic fantasies. If he had been really interested in something completely different, like, say, the oppression of Tibet by China, and had never heard of LDing, he might’ve instead become convinced that every country in the world was secretely conspiring to take down Tibet and that every government official the world over was in on the plot.

As such, I think it’s fair to say that his schizophrenia was based on LDing, but not that it triggered it; rather, the chemical imbalances present in his brain did. That’s the entire reason schizophrenia is treatable with medication; in many cases, when a schizophrenic is put on antipsychotic medication that regulates the brain’s dopamine neurotransmitter system (and seretonin, in the case of atypicals), their symptoms are frequently diminished, and in some cases disappear entirely. For this reason, saying that your friend’s scizophrenia was caused by LDing is, though understandable, somewhat unreasonable. As previously stated, anything might’ve become the basis for the disorder; but the cause of it is inevitably neurochemistry.

Omfg, that’s the most advanced talk about chemistry and scientific views on the body. :eek:

He did not go Insane becouse of lucid dreaming but lucid dreaming was his insanety…
That turnd out weard but what I am trying too say is that he whould hav gon insane anyway so if he had bin wery interested in someting else like a vidio game for example he whould maby tink he was in that game or someting like that.

One thing about all this mention of chemical imbalances in the brain… I was listening to an interview by the head of the American Psychological Association responding to Tom Cruise’s Today Show interview. And the APA guy basically said, yes, chemical imbalances are theoretical. We don’t actually know if they’re there, but the treatment works.

So basically, they’re giving you drugs to make you not act a certain way. What’s really going on in the “psychotic” mind, nobody really knows. It may have nothing at all to do with a chemical imbalance. …Something to think about.

WOW!

sorry that he got that desise, that’s a really creepy thought. I always believed that LD’s and dreams were naturual and there is nothing that can keep you from getting them, depending on what you do in your life. It may have been a coincadence that he had that desise and since he was LDing the desise made him confused. I always think that Dreams help you be aware of your life and the things around you. Sorry to hear that happend.

Actually, your friend is unlikely to be schizophrenic. He is more likely to be narcoleptic, according to National Geographic Channel’s broadcast of “The mysteries of Sleep” this week (26th September 2006). They told that behaviour like his was almost always misenterpreted as psychological disorder, or in this case, schizophrenia, when in fact it’s narcolepsia that’s causing his sudden dream-like behaviour.

The important thing here is, LD’s didn’t “drive” the friend schizo. He incorporated LD’s in his/her schozophrenia. If it wasn’t that, well, there are plenty of things to incorporate.

I agree with huggkruka.

He should have tried flying. For a RC.

:unk: Freaky…

My grandfather had scitzophrenia, (I never met the man while he was alive because he was a nut-job,) and my six-year-old sister might have it too, (she scares the crap out of everyone,) she’s tried to kill my two-year-old sister many times, (pushing her down steps, grinding her fingers in a electric pencil sharpener, cut her with knives, the list goes on and on,) used to never go to sleep or the bathroom because of invisable spiders, will look at the wall, her eyes will pop out and she’ll start screaming bloody murder, she does really weird things, (one time she kept pooping in a bucket in the basement because she didn’t want to use the the toilet,) she never remembers anything, even if she did it 5 minutes ago, she eats and eats and eats yet never gains any extra weight, she’ll start screaming for no reason, she’s just weird. :crazy:

I don’t have an explanation for most of that but a lot of kids can eat a lot and not put on much weight.

I know that, I just mentioned it because she might have celiac spru that 2 of my other sisters have, (it means you can’t process wheat products,) so that probably explains that, I don’t get the rest of it though, she acts friggin’ posessed…thanks for trying though, :partying_face:

So. Haven’t your parents taken her to a psychologist? Seems like the thing to do.

Funny… I mean, I’d look for more obvious dream signs if I were him. I mean, could he fly or use powers? Nope…

Nevertheless, pretty matrix-ish stuff o_o “The world is not real”, etc.

They actually just set an appointment up for her, it’s been put off for so long because she lies and totally makes up stuff, (she’ll trip and insist somebody pushed her and has claimed me and my other siblings hit her or slapped her when our parents are there the whole time to see that we only tapped her shoulder or something to get her attention,) so we’re kind of afraid of what she might say, (hopefully the pyschologist will see she’s a nut job and makes stuff up,) She’ll be seeing a pyschologist Thursday so hopefully it all works out… :scared:

Yeah, hope it works out.

Well good luck, and I hope it’s nothing too bad.