oh really! Has he been whispering in your ear “i can’t wait til you get lucid boy, I’m gonna give you a nightmare and make you a dope fiend!”
How so? Some sort of king (nebuchadnezzar?) in the Bible was in communication with God in his dreams. I am relayed an awful lot of information from “God” and other people when I am partially asleep, especially if I am praying while falling asleep.
it is sometimes profound, sometimes not, often times forgotten. But it generally is informative.
SATAN is FEAR. Fear created by the Bible to make you paranoid. Why would you let fear keep you from doing something amazing and helpful to your mind? If you think SATAN is after you, then he will show up and go “boogey boogey boogey” just like if I think Freddy Krueger is after me he’ll come out of the TV and chase me.
If there were a devil as powerful as God, and he wanted to mess with you, by all means, you would be messed with man, and lucidity would have nothing to do with it. He could try to mess with you probably even better if you weren’t lucid, because you wouldn’t be conscious enough to resist “him”.
Now listen here man. Get 666. out of your head. Get Satan out of you rhead.
If you are a Christian all you need to care about Jesus. And what did this man have to say about matters of the metaphysical… of so called “evil” or “occult” (occult means hidden, not evil) practices…
of things like this:
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well Jesus had this to say friend.
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
Jesus the Christ, Matthew 6:22 (KJV)
See also Luke 11:34
This is in direct reference to the third eye, located between the eyebrows, responsible for trasncendent, visionary, psychedelic phenomenon, including lucid dreams.
The Bible is clearly in complete advocation of meditational disciplines (of which lucid dreaming is a symptom of, i.e. a proficien tmeditator will have lucid dreams).
Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
GO IN. do you understand what this means? It means that your “Christian” upbringing, that has you afraid of looking inside your own mind, is a complete hypocrisy! Look at those words, woe unto the pharisees, church hypocrites, you do not go inward into yourselves, nor do you teach others to!
You are afraid of literally nothing!
Here’s more.
“the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21)
within YOU! Do everything you can to be a free, enlightened, liberated, and saved person. Many believe the energy body (holy spirit or for the jews, merkaba [body of light used to travel] can be activated and used during the dream state in order to navigate spiritual planes.
fear is your own enemy, and the devil is only inside of you, a personification of all your fears. nothing more. if you intend to be a light unto this world, how can you not be?
you know, this is actually quite true. the consequences are upon your mind though, they form habits. it’s similar to simply fantasizing about something. eventually you get a fixation over the fantasy and keep doing it.
To think God would disapprove of spiritual practices is rather absurd. It’s part of the Churchey-guilt mongering, and it actually goes against the Biblical teachings in the first place.
If you use your lucid dreams “sinfully” then perhaps, but if you use them improve yourself and to seek out truth, peace, and unison with the unfathomable, then… God will give you a thumbs up.
anyone who says otherwise, remmber matthew, they don’t go within and are acting as an obstacle, controlling and keeping people from accessing the Kingdom of Heaven.
now can I promise lucid dreaming will set you free? No… for some it has. For some it’s just a fun playground. But really, saying not to lucid dream is like saying that you aren’t allowed to pay attention while you are driving, but instead to listen to tons of music and be distracted.
now, we all dream. lucid dreaming is just that your mind is sharp and perceptive enough to realize “wait, I am dreaming” it means your mind is not lazy. It’s similar to how if you are say, reading my reply right now, you might be doing a lot of other things like thinking about your day, wondering what time it is, and not paying tons of attention.
Well, in that way, our lack of attention in the daily world, our lack of mindfulness and appreciation for the holiness of each moment we breathe (and how many times have you inhaled while reading this? do you know? that’s another example) is refleted in the dreamstate.
the only reason we are not naturally lucid is because we don’t pay a lot of attention to things, and are often running on auti-pilot. See the film Waking Life for an excellent illustration.
One of the first real lucid dreams I had, wound up with me stumbling into a place of such incomprehensible beauty that all I could do was break down crying, thanking God so much for letting me see it.
I haven’t had an experience like that really since, but boy was it amazing.
You can choose to read about God, or you can choose to connect to God. Or you can do both. But dude, don’t live your life on auto-pilot. work on being free. work on really manfiesting the symbolic power of Jesus into your life, and bcoming unified with the holy spirit. You can use dreams as a good way to really explore why you do what you do.
There is literally no reason not to be lucid.
Would the devil come after you for doing yoga? What about deep relaxing breathing? What about going on a nature retreat? Well, people use all these things to connect to God… why should dreaming be different?
Frankly I do not think this interpretation makes sense… it is saying that you need to remember God before you die (and your spirit leaves your body for good)!!! what in the world does this have to do with not astral projecting?
there are 3 schools of thought on AP that I am familiar with.
- all dreams are astral projections, lucid or not. we are in the astral everytime we dream, because the astral is simply a world of thoughtforms, our own, and other people’s.
- astral projection requires a volitional attempt to leave the body and lucid dreaming is not astral projection, you have to be in a lucid dream and desire to reach the astral plane.
- there is no astral projection.
now. last night i went and walked over a vast canyon… i flew and bobbed up and down, working energy into my hands to pilot myself. i then shot it out my feet, propelling myself very high, until my elevation lead me to a new “plane” which I was hoping the astral. i then saw my imagination unfold as it showed me some chakras aligning, and i was in my grandparents house hows that for some dangerous “out of body” state ? I chatted with them as to why I often dreamed of being in their house, and my grandmother had me drink some water.
i think the only possible plane i have ever been to was the first one I told you about, the place of beauty… and that… that was a closeness to God.
above all else you really have to come to your own conclusions. I could tell you what to believe, and if you questioned me I could terrify you with verbal abuse, so that you eventually accepted everything I said as ultimate truth, but really… our only source of authority should be GOD himself… not the Bible… not people with agendas… everything else should just be a tool… you read the bible… does it make sense? Does some of it seem nutty? Well, you make your own judgements, and you take it up with GOD.
and if you are channeling God like how Jesus did, then maybe you have the right to tell other people what to think, otherwise you are just the blind leading the blind, and that’s how many many churches and preachers are.
i mean like me. i can just relay what i’ve experienced, and what I think… I’m hoping to help give you some insights, but you should neither completely reject what I am saying because it is foreign and “blasphemous”, nor should you immediately accept it.
truth really, is a state without words, judgements, and labels. to me.