Eeer please, I know you may not like Tarot and such, but do not call it “that crap” just because you don’t like it 
Other people may feel insulted by this.
I, for example, am quite fond of it… But really, no hard feelings, just giving you a tip.
By the way, you might have seen a topic I posted about Tarot once in the “Beyond Dreaming” forum. Dreaming (or LDing, for that matter) doesn’t really have anything to do with it.
I’m pretty sure that was Saint Augustine. I have remembered hearing about that too. I’m surprised that they didn’t burn him for heresy because of it 
I’m pretty sure that was Saint Augustine. I have remembered hearing about that too. I’m surprised that they didn’t burn him for heresy because of it [/quote
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Don’t call other peoples beliefs/opinions crap. Other people believe in the power of tarrot cards, etc. Would you like it if I called Christianity crap? I don’t think so.
Hi.
A time ago a small test: I asked many people from Pentecostal/Baptist churches if they dreamt lucidly (I asked: “have you been aware while you dream that you are dreaming”,“Could you control your dreams while you knew that are you dreaming” or something like this) , and about 80% said “yes”.
Also, Solomon (Kings 3:5-10) while he was dreaming was asked by God to chose something from Him. Even if if that dream doesn’t qualify as a “lucid dream” according to LaBerge definition, because it’s not written if Solomon was aware or not that was dreaming, it is sure that he had a lucid mind. From having a lucid mind to a lucid dream, is a small step (just ask if you are dreaming).
So, go ahead. Dream lucidly.
Paul
I’m sorry, but he called tarot cards crap because it’s against the christian religion. Although, I do not call it crap, but I am a christian. I just don’t do it, but I’m not going to hate it or the people who do it, because that’s not what my God says. He says to love everyone, but discourage it from yourselve, and if someone wants help to help them.
Now then, Lucid Dreams, to my knowledge, are not against any religion I’ve ever heard of.
I’m atheist, but I don’t go around calling God crap. Maybe I should, judging from the attitudes of most Christians towards other beliefs.
let’s stay on topic here from now on and please respect each other’s beliefs. No bashing of other’s beliefs, be it new-age or christian. Thank you 
i never knew one word could take off so majorly.
im sorry, i changed it, okay?
I tried to convince my friend about LDing but he must of thought it was non-relgious. He is hardcore Christian.
I basicly defended everything that he tried to say when he knows nothing about LDing.
Should I try to explain it better? He is pretty close minded. xD
I think I might have rushed it though, but I was bored… lol
I’m trying to get more people into LDing… I’m gonna start with my friends mostly first…
Tell him he needs to be more open-minded. Christianity wouldn’t exist without open-minded people to believe in that Jesus was the messiah at the start.
Ok… thanks… I’ll try it again, …see he wanted the benefits of LDing, and I sayed it relieves stress, and you can talk to dead parents and stuff,… and his dad has cancer, but he already knows he is gonna die… and he isn’t getting sensitive about it, so I didn’t think he would care if i said that… maybe he took that in a wrong way… or something
Also he said he already has stuff like that… i guess he means like meditation… but mediating sucks compared to LDing…
I’m also a Christian, and I agree with the idea that lucid dreaming in itself is not a sin, but rather what you could do with it. For example, from a Christian perspective, trying to use LDing to contact spirits and such would be considered a sin.
Then there’s the fact that the only core aspect that separates lucid dreaming from normal dreaming is the fact that you are aware of the fact that you are dreaming, while you are dreaming.
I’ve never come across any doctrine that prohibits awareness of your own dreams. So, what harm can there be? 
I’m a Christian too (people have asked me have I considered becoming a preacher instead of a cop and have told me how they love how strong my faith is, as an example of where I’m coming from) and I wouldn’t think lucid dreaming is a sin either.
Im Catholic and I see no problem in this, I have even talk to my family and even they dont have a problem with Lucid Dreaming. Plus Lucid Dreaming could be a good thing too on religious side too because if you can master LD you can talk to your sub-con which you can ask advice from. And the advice you would recieve would most likely be with eyes unclouded.
you shouldn’t worry about if its some one elses code wether or not you do things. lucid dreaming is not against any religion that i can think off but maybe what you do in it is against it, but then again most people have imagined killing some one does that mean they go to hell, think of it that way, dreams aren’t real so morrals dont play in until you wake up.
How could you be so totally against something(s) you haven’t a clue about. Ignorance makes me so sad… yea by the way “tarots” aren’t for telling the future. But I do understand that you and your religion are very against such things but, you should know the things you are opposed to, otherwise there isn’t much backing up your opinion. (and I really don’t want to offend anyone, so just to say that I respect all religions and lack there of).
Yeah, I might have said to much about that part…
He said what were the benefits… so I was trying to give some…
No worries, Just using an example. It was the first thing that came to mind.
I think that it would be fine to talk to a DC of a deceased loved one in a dream – I think that it would be very beneficial, psychologically, if you felt that there was a need. But, I would think that this is wrong with the mindset and belief that you’re trying to communicate with the dead. The distinction is in the intent and the means.
In a LD you wouldn’t be able to contact spirits actually.
Like Javan said, they would be just DCs, all you see is your imagination, so all it really is, is bringing up fond memories. About as bad as thinking about them in the middle of the day, I’m sure. 
Oh and if anybody is wondering, I am an Atheist, but I couldn’t imagine LDing be against any religion’s beliefs, only certain individual’s beliefs, if that is indeed the case.