Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part III

Hmmm… Well, Sometimes spontaneous characters appear-- It’s happened to others on the thread :3. It might just be something that happens without reason-- or perhaps spurred by some inner development?

I guess if the character seems undesirable, you should evaluate if you’d want to keep them or not. If not-- then just get rid of them, as you said, forget them and perhaps replace them?

Or very possibly you could create your own personal system to get rid of undesirable characters-- Like a specific character that can eject them if nessicary but you keep reins on them, obviously). Or rules saying that if they make mischief, you could change/destroy them…

To prevent such bad dreams-- I suppose you already have characters that can make that pass :3…

But in the end-- you’re in control of your own mind :3 You can make any sort of system, or set up rules or boundries that can help you control such unpleasent experiences… Or, you could try what I do-- I just keep a good amount of power over my characters, and make sure that they follow my 3 rules:

  1. No action or intention of my characters may affect any of the physical people in a negative way.
  2. I am capable of stopping any dangerous actions if it affects anyone of the physical people.
  3. I am capable of destroying/altering characters at will.

I can’t really explain why characters occur randomly-- there could be so many answers… But I do hope this helped you, at least a bit :3

~Tal

Yepyep. I don’t really know the average chance of it working, being that I’m only one person-- But I think that would also depend on how you’ve created your character, if they agree or not (some characters tend to come out stubborn @__a and forcing them to say ‘yes’ like a puppet really doesn’t do much…). The average-- I don’t know-- it’s not used widely enough, updated enough, or used frequently enough yet to gather that…
But to answer your second question-- yes, I have asked a few or my characters to help… and nagged them til they said “Maybe” or “yes” so I’d stop (Mostly cause they’re stubborn, and since I’ve been roleplaying with them they’ve had better things to do). On some level-- I can feel that I am not getting the “Ok I’ll help you” responses after the first time, but I still tried a few times. When I ask and they’re not willing, I get no results in the way of lucid dreams-- D: But they tend to be at least exciting with slightly more clarity :3~

But-- If I asked for help in dream-recall, or waking at a certain time-- I was granted that each time XD. It works pretty much every time I try it the first time with my characters…

Did that answer your question? XD

~Tal

Hey TA! :grin: I sent you a pm because all this CALD talk has got me ALL confused. :silent:

Yes thank you. For my next character, I was thinking that being nice would give him more reason to help me with lucid dreams. Well, talking to him will be a start, complimenting him, rewarding him, appreciating him ect… and generally designing his personality just for helping others.

Could CALD be just that you believe they will be in the dream, and therefor help you by suggesting it is a dream. Like similar to VILD? Or could it really be them actually telling you.

I think, personally how it works-- is since they’re contained within your own mind, that you’re sort of just suggesting to yourself through them to go lucid… But it could be taken in all sorts and kinds of ways XD

As for your character-- It sounds like a great plan XD I don’t see way too many reallyreally giving characters, I think It would be interesting to see more of those :3 Maybe you could update if you do make one, yes? :smiley:

~Tal

Got it and replied~ ^^ I hope it helps to clarify things!
Just remember, :stuck_out_tongue: Don’t be afraid to post stuff on the thread! It would be good, since I can spread the knowledge around :smiley: It would be good clarification to others as well ^^~

~Tal :smiley:

Yeah sure. It’s just that my characters are always based off something in real life. Someone I’ve met, or an actual character from a film. So hard for me to come up with something random, I’m not very creative :tongue:.
Perhaps I could make use of some internet random name generators :razz: something…Mysterious :grin:

^^~ Haha, Perhaps.
Well! Anything you make, is really just for you… As long as you’re happy with it, yeah?

Good luck! Hope to hear from you :3~
~Tal

Well I already had a char like that (guardian), which is a pack of wolves, I just hadn’t given them permission to roam my mind in order to protect it. I fixed that problem that night. Thanks for the answer, it gave me a new angle to look at it with.

That’s good ^^~ I’m glad it helped XD
Good luck! I’m sure with your pack of wolves, the problem won’t arise again~

~Tal :smiley:

So, to make a character that reacts on its own, you basically have to roleplay with yourself?

I’ve done that all the time!! But I never thought of actually using them to help me lucid dream… Hmmmm…

Ah no offence ment here Talon but WTF are you on about!!! :eek:
CALD is a very unique and fun technique and I would be very sad :cry: (and Im sure other people would to) if you took away CALD. CALD has boosted my imagination given me ideas for stories, poetry and sketches. Ive gotten to know myself better too and my dreams! Of course theres going to be the odd person that questions it but thats ok.
And you dont bother people well not that I know of at least! :grin:

Haha, well that’s good ^^~
I’ve met a few people who have already started that part up-- :3~ It’s-- I guess it’s a form of roleplaying with yourself ^^;~ Interaction between you and your own character-- But the character is more automatic about it’s responses, rather than being a puppet… :stuck_out_tongue:
So I suppose-- yes, XD That sort of interaction does make them react on your own…

If you start up using them for lucid dreaming induction, could you give us updates as to your progress! I’m sure we’d all love to know ^^~

~Best of luck!
~Tal

Ha… ^^~ Thanks Astraea… I’m happy you think so :P~
I’m really starting to get embarrassed that I put that up! XD~
It makes me happy that it’s been so beneficial, and that you’re so supportive–

Thanks :3~ I think I will handle this with a bit more grace, since I know I have support… :P~

Thank you~ :smiley:
~Tal

Three random characters (one already appeared to me in an LD long ago) came to mind last night and automatically gave me responses that I didn’t force… Their names were Takra, Nemo, and Qual. I asked Qual to help me LD since he appeared in one before, but after I asked him we talked for a while and I pissed him off… so I guess that pretty much lost me my chance last night. :lol:

i don’t know if this has anything to do with it but…

well last night in HI i saw one of my RL friends, and since i was kinda MILDing although half awake i asked him if i was going to become lucid, and he said “oh, totally”

now i noticed that with my friends i could visualize them almost perfectly, and even match the voices perfectly, so i cycled though all the friends i hang out with a lot and did a bit of a MILD/CALD, although with real people.

I’m going to keep trying this because i feel it might go somewhere, i suppose it is a variation of CALD

if you havn’t created your character to the teeth, try using real life people you are around a lot!

Anyway, like i said this method will require further testing but hey, last night was the first night i had good recall in awhile.

This whole dream character thingy kind of reminds me of the movies Paprika. I mean, “creating” a dream character based on your own alter ego.

I loved that!

Chiba: Why won’t you listen to me? You’re a part of me!
Paprika: Haven’t you ever thought that YOU are a part of ME?

Well :P~ It’s good you already have the characters up! It’s a good start ^^~

It seems as though you’re already well on your way! :smiley:
Good luck! ^^~ It’s great to hear your update so soon!

Hope to hear more!~
~Tal

^^~ Well that’s interesting! :smiley: It’s really cool… I had never thought of that!~ :smiley:

It sounds like your got good results~ ^^ I will join you in testing!
Y’think it’ll go far?

~Joyful and hopeful,
~Tal :smiley: