The vibrations however is a good sign. Means you’re getting relaxed. Becoming further away from your phsyical body.
Ok well basically, I’ve been trying LDing for the last month or so. At first I tried the RC and DD stuff, but I didn’t really get anywhere. My recall did improve though, I must say. But I wasn’t getting any LD type experieces, so I sort of decided that I can’t really seem to trust my mind when I’m not in control of it…it’s a bit annoying lol. Anyway, I at last tried a WILD last night. I didn’t get any HI etc., but I did sort of get a result. What happened was, I started to sort of relax, and tried to keep my mind emptyish, and sort of go into trance. After a while, I found my legs twitching occasionally. I tried not to pay too much attention. I then started to drift off, but still semi-concious. I think I must have started to lose it though, and I felt this sudden kind of jerk behind my navel! I wasn’t prepared for that, and sat straight up. I then tried again, this time using reverse blinking and trying to get SP…after a while, I did go into a trance, but was jerked out of it by my stupid legs which seemed to develop a mind of their own: they did a sort of spasmy type thing, like the jerks earlier, but more powerful. I then found that my legs were very heavy. This afternoon I tried again, yielding the same results as I did last night, still being jerked awake by my legs, and again finding that they were heavy. Am I doing this wrong, or does this generally happen, or any advice?
Ps, sorry that was so long lol, first post.
Moved from Gen Lucidness :moh:
It happens, i believe you just have to stay calm and let yourslef slip into the dream. The twitching is your body falling asleep. If your having trouble with WILD, try it with the WBTB technique. Or, you could try others too; generally WILD is the most difficult to do but has the best effect so i guess i the end its more fulfilling. I prefer WILD.
I have a question, I’m not sure if its been asked but I don’t have the time right now to read through the forums T_T… Will listening to music help keep focus or will it divert me from going to sleep?
It will probably help. It’s kind of like we often manages to fall asleep infront of the tv but not lying beside a fan or a buzzing computer. Just keep the music slow and relaxing but yet with rythm.
Last night I made it further than ever with my ‘technique’ which I explained here: ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p … ht=#399935
I got past the huge vibrations and went into this strange state that could only have been me falling asleep. But I got so excited that my heart was pounding. Does this happen to anyone else? I’m not sure how I’m going to calm myself down next time it happens.
Do you eventually enter a dream when you hit this state? Or does it take some initiative, like visualizing a dream scene? I’m not really sure. I was sitting there waiting for a dream to form, afraid to concentrate on anything lest it woke me up. Oddly, I didn’t have any HI and they didn’t seem to be coming. That’s why I gave up. (I know, I was so close…)
EDIT: Yes, I did use WBTB, before anyone asks.
Do I have to wake up in the middle of the night and go back to sleep to attempt WILD or does it just make things easier?
You have to do WILD right before REM. So if you do WBTB with WILD theres a better chance of getting lucid.
I started useing WILD a few days ago and I’v been having some trouble. After I count my breaths for awhile my mind starts to wander and I end up falling asleep naturaly. Any ideas to help me focus?
I am, according to many others on the forum, “too aware” when I try to WILD.
I’m not sure what that means…
My body is completely still (except for a twitch or two every few minutes or so) and my breathing is at a slow pace.
I just need some advice…
I tried using a WILD tech last night where what i did was focus my mind on something simple while i let my relaxed body slowly drift off while counting “1 im dreaming, 2 im dreaming” etc.
1st attempt i lost concetration, 2nd attempt i managed to get my legs to go numb with that tingly feeling, and my arms were starting to go, but the fact that it was working got me excited and stopped that attempt.
Im wondering, if i had managed to get my whole body numb, could that have lead to a LD or not really ?, also any advice on how to keep myself more calm the next time around so i can reach lucidity ?, as well as any other techniques and such ?
It won’t lead you to LD, but it the best sign the you are on the right track.
And about being calm, just keep doing what kept you occupied during WILD.
Rotten Apples, “too aware” means that you can’t fall asleep because your mind works too hard or focusing on something that prevents you from falling asleep.
For WILD to work you must be very tired so you can very easily fall asleep, that why WILD works very well when people wake up in the middle of a dream, they want to sleep so badly, so they need very little time to focus on something for them to fall asleep with their logical part of the brain working, it might take 10-30 to fall asleep again, so just focus and let yourself fall asleep at the same time.
The problem with me is, I’m never awake enough to try to WILD… I say “Screw it, WILD will keep me up all night… I’m just going back to sleep” (since it has kept me up all night before and it was NOT pleasant).
And I usually never focus on anything in particular… other than breathing or maybe a place in my head.
Are there people out there that just don’t have the ability to WILD?
If not, I’m the first. 
So then the next step is to just keep my mind aware as my body falls asleep, reconize the HI, use which-ever initiation tech. i choose, and then hopefully i’ll be able to achieve lucidity, am i thinking right so far ?
Ok i learnt about lucid dreaming yesterday and started a DJ and i’ve started to practise WILD just for the hell of it. My dream recall isnt to good yet, the dream i wrote down last night wasnt to long and very vague.
So, its 5:02pm now, and i slept from 12:00pm to 3:00pm and ive been awake since then, i know its a little early to practise WILD because my recall isnt that good.
but my question is, when i try should i be able to see anything at all? i’m still new to the whole thing and this is how ive been ‘practising’ it.
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i lay down on my back, hands by my side or on my chest (does this matter?)
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try to relax and close my eyes, looking into blackness (obviously)
but no matter how hard i try i can never go into SP…when i try to move my body i always can… ive read all the guides but it just says to concentrate, concentrate on what exacally?
can somone just give me a brief walkthrew of what your most reliable method is.
I know i can’t expect to go into a full fledged lucid dream straight away, but i don’t think i’m doing it right…
by the way, i don’t know if it matters but all i seem to see are blue… flashes (i don’t even know if this is just the light coming threw the window on my eye lids) i don’t know… but at first its like moving flashes, then they turn blue and eventually all i can see is blue.
this is probably nothing, but i just thought i’d mention it because i didn’t go into SP…
Yeah, from that step all you have to do is to stay aware as much as you can until you feel you are about to reach the dream, a few more seconds were everything is very crazy and then you find yourself in a dream, perfectly aware the you just did WILD so this is a LD
hi guys i was just browsing the internet on lucid dreaming and i bumped into this it certanly catched my eye hope it helps u guys out as well 
Imagine your dream hand (or spirit hand if you prefer) going up and leaving your physical hand behind. Now you should have two separate bodies, a dream one and a real one. Control your dream body only — if you control your real one, you will wake up. Now you can try to roll out of bed into your dream world (alternatively, you can get up and walk through a mirror, or sink into your bed).
now this will really supprise you!
i got it of wikipedia hahahahaha 
This sounds pretty good. Any others?
I like to “peel” myself away from my body(once I am in SP and start hallucinating), then freeze an image in my head of where I want to go, then just reproduce the feeling of walking, that usually will take me there. It’s very important that you:
a. Forget about your physical body completely.
b. Remain calm.
c. When you know where you want to go glue that picture in your mind. Do not let your mind wander anywhere else, focus on the trees, the sidewalk, the buildings, whatever. Just don’t let your thoughts stray.