Even the thought fills me with fear, the first night i read about that i couldn’t sleep. I just can’t face it, i also feel that deeply inside me i do not actually want to face it.
I feel that i am not ready for such revelation.
I don’t know…
Last week I had a quite impressive experience concerning SP. Now I often dream being in SP! First time I just woke up but last time I was being lifted to the ceiling. 
Quite strange and interesting. Hope it is a step forward to a LD.
You guys do know you don’t need sp to get an Ld right…?
I know this is a pretty old post, but I just wanted to say that this is pretty similar to what I started experiencing. Like, I saw the real world, and could only see the real world… but I could move and feel with my astral body (I think). Very strange. It is good to hear that someone else has experienced this before… I’m just surprised that absolutely no one has responded to him… is it really that rare of an occurrence?
I already asked this in the OBE thread, but does anyone know if this is close to an OBE? Or is it just like… all of the senses except for sight is still in the dream, but sight itself is in the real world?
I’ve only experienced SP once that I can recall. It was earlier this year, but I’d written it off as some kind of freaky waking nightmare.
I’m not sure it’s even a SP because I had moved before it happened. I had been sleeping with sleep goggles on my eyes, and after I’d woken up from a dream I uncovered my eyes and was laying there still trying to fully wake up. That’s when it hit.
I don’t remember what the dream I’d woken up from was about… I’m fairly certain it included my immediate family, or atleast my dad, but aside from that I’ve not a clue.
Laying awake in my room, it was bright from the sunlight coming through the window. All of a sudden my vision just vanished and I was descending at a rapid speed down into a very dark, circular, dirt hole. I was falling so fast that the walls were just a blur, but I could make out that the sides were rough and rocky, a dark tan/brown. I couldn’t see any light, just blackness down deeper into the hole. I’d guess the diameter was around 4-5 feet.
I didn’t notice my body, I couldn’t move or anything. It just felt like every fiber of my being was being pulled deeper into the chasm by some kind of invisible force, but at the same time I felt no physical sensation that should have accompanied such a force. I’m not sure how to explain that properly.
I remember as soon as it started I came to the realization that whatever was happening was occuring to my consciousness, not my actual body. The best way to describe it would be that it felt like my mind had cracked open and my consciousness was spilling out, down into this pit, somehow leaving whatever was left of me behind. I was rapidly diminishing, and all I felt was fear.
As I fell deeper I honestly thought I was dying, and I was completely terrified. I absolutely believed that what I was experiencing was death, and that very soon there would be nothing of me left. I’d just slip into a black nothing.
Then just as suddenly as it all started, it ended, and I was back laying in my bed. The whole experience had only lasted a matter of seconds, maybe less, but it really freaked me out. I laid in bed staring at the ceiling, unable to move or even blink. I don’t know if I was physically unable to or if I was just freaked out that much.
I hadn’t given it any thought recently but a post elsewhere triggered the memory, so I searched for sleep paralysis. I guess what I experienced was the hallucinatory effects that go along with it. Really weird, I wouldn’t want that again 
I have been trying to WILD for the past week or two, and I never get anywhere. I just never can seem to hit SP. Or at least I think I can’t. I get to a point where my body becomes entirely numb and hard to move without conscious effort, but it is still very possible to move if I really try. Is this SP? Or is it just close?
I doubt it… at least from all my experiences, I actually cannot move at all. I don’t see why you’re trying to get SP. Isn’t that just an unwanted by product of lucid dreaming?
I’m a pretty seasoned SPer. I hope that doesn’t sound too boastful, but what I mean to say is that I have it a lot. I’ve been having it on frequent occasions for about 5, 6 years now. Sometimes it’s bearable; like if it happens past sunrise, I’m not so scared. In fact, I enjoy it. But if it ever happens in the middle of the night, I’m usually terrified. How can I get past that? Maybe I have this weird idea in the back of my mind that it’s a ghost/poltergeist that’s the cause of it, and that always scares me. Funny thing is I sleep with an eye mask and ear plugs in, largely in part to avoid thinking the sounds I’m hearing are external and then (providing the mask is on) not being able to see scary stuff.
The reason for my post is… how can I NOT be afraid to have SP? I mean, I have it so often, I wish I could embrace it every time and use it to my advantage. On record I think I’ve had it up to 4 times in one night. Last night I had it three seperate times (it was a rough night, lemme tell ya.) Any suggestions? Does turning on a little night light seem to help anyone?
I have read quite a bit about SP and it seems that I am getting too excited and losing it. This is while falling to sleep. I am not sure if it actually qualifies as a SP though. My heartbeat rises, my whole body feels numb and it feels like I am floating. I always get curious and move my arm and it stops.
Curiosity killed the cat 
I don’t know which cat it killed, though, and if Curiosity is felicidal, who says it won’t turn homicidal?
Anyway, last time I had SP, my heart-rate increased, head felt strange, and the weird thing was - my eyelids went crazy for a second. Then it stopped.
related to the “Old Hag” phenomenon is a similar event that seems to happen to young, Laotian Hmong refugees. I heard a lecture on this once.
Sudden Unexpected Nocturnal Death Syndrome
As it said in the article they were under a lot of stress anyway due to war/migration etc. They also had a real belief that ‘the entity’ was real.
We all know the biggest factor in old hag is the fear element and not knowing that it is an illusion made by the subconscious to explain the feelings felt during SP.
So it is an interesting article but i hope it doesn’t add to any SP fears that members have.
Yes, you’re right – I’m sorry I didn’t think about that. I’m kind of surprised in retrospect that the researchers didn’t discuss it much, either.
moved from general lucidness forum to the Big SP and Old Hag topic 
I dont know if this is the right section to ask in but its general so ill ask it here.
last night around 3 or 4 am i woke up and started nodding back off to sleep, i opened my eyes but i couldnt see anything except a small peice of the ceiling i was looking at, the rest was darkness. I couldnt move my body and then i couldnt keep my eyes open any longer, I was straining very hard to keep my eyes open. when my eyes closed it felt like I was being pulled against my bed so I couldnt move or get up, about 3-4 seconds later I could move my body again and open my eyes.
my question is if this is sleep paralysis seeing as how I couldnt move at all and I had just woken up and kind of drifted back into sleep.
it’s SP
i once felt like a packed sausage i could move only a little bit and i had a dream of some kinda wars and generals… everything looked pink… is that a SP?
Usually in sleep paralysis, it is possible to move first the eyes, then the fingers and toes, before the paralysis wears off and we are able to fully move again. Could the pink come from partially open eyes? That used to happen to me quite a lot in my childhood and teens. It is also not uncommon to be aware of both the physical, paralysed body and a dream at the same time, and it can be used to start a lucid dream from. Were you waking up, or falling asleep when you had this experience? I get sleep paralysis quite easily if i wake myself up from a dream on purpose. 
Moved from the Quest for Lucidty 
If the old hag and other terrifying hallucinations that go with sleep paralysis ever attack you- kill them. Don’t sit there and tremble like a little baby, KILL THEM. Close your eyes, imagine your favorite fight song in the background (mine is Stain of Mind by Slayer) and imagine yourself with a chainsaw, or any other weapon of your choice.
Tell the hallucinations that you’re not afraid of them. Yell at them with all of your rage (inside of your head of course) and just beat the living s*** out of them! Send that she-devil or whatever monster there is back to hell!
Once you break out of the SP with your clothes stained in blood and guts, get up from your bed, and talking out loud, threaten the hallucination that if were ever to come back again, you would take your rage to even further lengths.
(It’d even be better if you could go into an LD beating up the hallucination 
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How are you going to fight when you can’t move?
The whole event itself is just an hallucination- It’s all in your head.
The only way you can fight it is in your head. Just imagine yourself killing it- show no mercy. How dare it scare you like that!? Eventually, you might just slip into a dream, and hopefully you will see the old hag in your dream. Become lucid, and this time really fight it 