Keep your eyes open!

Keep your eyes open, when you can’t do this anymore, you can get up and meditate. This should cause a lapse in REM which causes REM rebound so that eventually you will plop right into a lucid dream.

basically you are dozing off to sleep working on keeping the eyes open and if you ever feel tired enough that you can’t do it, you are going to miss out on lucidity, so get up and refresh your mind a little, then do it again.

Ideally as soon as you close your eyes you will see a dream replica of your room right in front of you, and have an OBE

Sounds snazzy!

I’ll try this tonight!

Let us know how it goes - I’d try it out myself if I had enough time. :happy:

This sounds awesome! Thing is, I have a bit of insomnia, and if I really wanted to I could lie in bed with my eyes open for hours and hours. :razz:

Still, I’ll try this some night when losing sleep and getting up late the next day isn’t a problem.

sounds great ill give it a try tonight :smile:

I’ll try it…does it always work for you? I do WILD (although always unsuccessful) because I sort of believe MILD to be too unreliable.(and 1/2 the time my dreams are logical enough, where the other 1/4 minor impossibilities, the last 1/4 impossible)

So how long do the eyes need to be open? 30 minutes at night? 1 hour? 3 hours? The whole 5 to REM?

it hasn’t worked for me yet but it as an idea i have heard from other people

that if you want to dream, fall asleep with your eyes open, instead of closed.

i’m still learning a lot about WHEN REM begins and HOW to go into it consciously, because i can spend hours in NREM never dreaming only have HH and waking back up and sleeping and waking back up,

yet eventually I’m spending a long time IN dreams, so… it is curious.

your eyes would eventually close right? if u slept with your eyes open your eyes can dry out and that is not good for your health.

If you are keeping your eyes open, don’t you cry then?

It failed me, and I didn’t do well in P.E./Gym today. I even kept them open for 90 minutes!(after which the shortest REM begins(according to wikipedia, but it is unreliable…))

I’m not doing this again >.<

I thought you can’t fall asleep if you keep your eyes open the whole time. Please explain :eh:

P.S. I haven’t slept since 9:00am yesterday, now it’s 2:30pm. And I’m staying up all night again tonight. Basically i was going to ask, what would sleep deprivation do to me?

you can fall asleep with your eyes open, but not in the sense your thinking. youll eventually just close them without knowing it after a while. And sleep isnt the case here - it’s a clear head and a blank mind. more meditation than sleep.

oh, ok. Now i get it. :smile:

The reason to open your eyes is that it raises brainwaves closer to beta and alpha than alpha/theta or asleep in deep theta/delta.

For light sleepers, what I notice is that every time I roll over, if I am not lucid and have not been dreaming, if I open my eyes and sit up on the bed for a few minutes, then go lie back down, it helps greatly.

the only point is to keep brainwaves and therefore consciousness much more alert and vigilant.

can you explain what this post means, and what it has to do with PE and gym?

do not follow someone else’s advice at the expense of over-riding your own intuition

I didn’t get as much sleep. I don’t know how long to keep them open. It probably didn’t affect p.e., but I’m not taking that chance again.

In this podcast, the woman speaking says the exact same method as this

stevepavlina.com/podcasts/Pa … eaming.mp3

about 3/4 way through.

Interesting. I’m a light sleeper and I have a weird feeling this might really work for me. I’ll try it tonight.

EDIT: … I’ll also try the keep-eyes-open thing. :wink:

Can you think of other things while doing this, or do you just stare blankly at your room?

I tried to fall asleep with my eyes open yesterday. It was really interesting, although I wasn’t able to enter a dream.

At one point, when my eyelids felt really heavy, when I opened them I was almost sure I was already in a dream. I got that “feeling” you get wheh looking at HI, like if it were my mind that was seeing, not my eyes. But I was wrong, I was still awake… :sad: I’ll try again, though, I just might have to hang in there a bit longer…

From what I got, you are not supposed to fall asleep with your eyes open. Just keep them open, and when your eyelids feel really heavy, sit up and meditate for a while- Then fall back to bed, and return to lying with your eyes open, and when your eyelids once again starts feeling heavy, do the same thing again.
This, as far as I could tell, is supposed to cause a REM rebound (dunno what it means though).