it hasn’t worked for me yet but it as an idea i have heard from other people
that if you want to dream, fall asleep with your eyes open, instead of closed.
i’m still learning a lot about WHEN REM begins and HOW to go into it consciously, because i can spend hours in NREM never dreaming only have HH and waking back up and sleeping and waking back up,
yet eventually I’m spending a long time IN dreams, so… it is curious.
It failed me, and I didn’t do well in P.E./Gym today. I even kept them open for 90 minutes!(after which the shortest REM begins(according to wikipedia, but it is unreliable…))
I thought you can’t fall asleep if you keep your eyes open the whole time. Please explain
P.S. I haven’t slept since 9:00am yesterday, now it’s 2:30pm. And I’m staying up all night again tonight. Basically i was going to ask, what would sleep deprivation do to me?
you can fall asleep with your eyes open, but not in the sense your thinking. youll eventually just close them without knowing it after a while. And sleep isnt the case here - it’s a clear head and a blank mind. more meditation than sleep.
The reason to open your eyes is that it raises brainwaves closer to beta and alpha than alpha/theta or asleep in deep theta/delta.
For light sleepers, what I notice is that every time I roll over, if I am not lucid and have not been dreaming, if I open my eyes and sit up on the bed for a few minutes, then go lie back down, it helps greatly.
the only point is to keep brainwaves and therefore consciousness much more alert and vigilant.
can you explain what this post means, and what it has to do with PE and gym?
do not follow someone else’s advice at the expense of over-riding your own intuition
I tried to fall asleep with my eyes open yesterday. It was really interesting, although I wasn’t able to enter a dream.
At one point, when my eyelids felt really heavy, when I opened them I was almost sure I was already in a dream. I got that “feeling” you get wheh looking at HI, like if it were my mind that was seeing, not my eyes. But I was wrong, I was still awake… I’ll try again, though, I just might have to hang in there a bit longer…
From what I got, you are not supposed to fall asleep with your eyes open. Just keep them open, and when your eyelids feel really heavy, sit up and meditate for a while- Then fall back to bed, and return to lying with your eyes open, and when your eyelids once again starts feeling heavy, do the same thing again.
This, as far as I could tell, is supposed to cause a REM rebound (dunno what it means though).
mmm, yes! This would definitely cause a REM rebound.
the thing is you can do this 5-6 times without having REM, so it might not be needed to get up and meditate each time the eyes feel really heavy, although, this would be very good for helping you reach deep meditation.
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that woman’s podcast was somewhat useful,
i would simply speak without rehearsing, and without trying to sound happy and hold patterns in my voice, i don’t like how people market themselves in that manner… all businessn-y
“How ya doin Steve!?”
“Fantastic!”
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What she says about carrying consciousness into sleep is true, I suppose if one refuses to roll over and keeps the eyes open, and then gets up to meditate when they feel so inclined, it would help tremendously.
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if you deprive yourself of REM sleep you will have a surplus of it come in suddenly,
giving you a lot of dreaming.
the same is true of NREM, it also has a re-bound
people that have the misfortune of enjoying being drunk will understand this, their sleep is of a strange quality and eventually they have bizarre vivid dreams, but it isn’t worth it, being drunk is never worth, the poison and pain it brings the body and mind, and other people
it is a terrible poison unleashed upon our planet, that we are better off without.
lest one knows how to be responsible and not incur any physical health problems, though it is still a neuro-poison
it depends, if you are very good at being a light sleeper you don’t go into REM, at all, and if you get up when you are about to go into REM and meditate, you will have a REM rebound