Is this a joke. Husain Obama. Why would you even think you would have a shot at being president with a name like that? I would love to see the next president be a women, or a black man, but seriously. I didnt know his middle name was Husain until resently. Not to mention Obama… Osama. I mean come on. What is the deal hear. Im voting for Hillary. I really dont want to see another white man in office. Its time for something diffrent.
i am voting for hilary also but serisoly the name does not matter and this is why i get pissed at people in my school and america in generl. if someone ran for president and there name was shy McSt S**t would you not vote for her? i meen i get pissed also when people say there not vothing for Hillary because she is a woman or there voteing for Oboma because hes black. thouse are the wrong reasons to vote you vote on the issuses. i meen look at JFK he was baccaly elected becasue women like the way he look and see what happed to him he got shot. i would vote for Oboma if he had more experience. he has not even served a full senate turm. now i will admit he has only gotten this far because he is black and the media is afread to touch him becuase if they do they are raceist. i have seen this enigh where i live. if Pastor Write was hillary’s or mccane’s pastor they would have been forced to dropout due to it. there are black people that say if you are white and think Pastor Write is racest or wrong thlat you are racest. so i dont know i just know you should not vote for someone because of there name.
Not because of his name, but many people feel that he is a Muslim. There would be nothing wrong with that per se, but if he was honest about it, that would be another story.
The man won’t even hold his hand over his heart for the National Anthem, can we say disrespectful?
For the record, I’m against all 3 candidates. McCain, Hillary, and Obama are all corrupted to an extent one way or the other.
just like all poloticians! and religion should have nothing to do with being persident eather i know all but (i think it was 2) where Catholicl. but it should have nothing to do with it
same here.
Most are, but not all. JFK, Ron Paul, and Dennis Kucinich come to mind.
Actually, Obama explicitly refuses to take donations from corporate and government lobbyists. Every penny used in his campaign came from individual citizens, in the largest grassroots fundraiser ever.
On the page of his website where you can donate, you have to check a box stating the following:
And you call him corrupted?
I’m just curious. How many speeches have you heard? How many debates have you watched? Or are you just jumping on the Ron Paul bandwagon? Of course it’s impossible for a mainstream candidate to attain that status because he gives the people real hope for change, oh no. Only the less popular candidates can be truly honest. Everyone else just cares about personal gain, because that’s the kind of person who would want to run for president. [/sarcasm]
Honestly though, I would like a mod to lock this topic before it gets out of hand. I can already tell it’s going to get heated.
i disigree with that alot! i have seen the debates and i honestely do not like Oboma or the republicand (that includes Ron Paul) but all polotions are crupt in some way or another. look at Oboma’s commericial (i ran around my here in PA). he said that he is not like the other canadates becasue he does not take money from major oil companies. well thats true but if you look at all the facts NONE OF THEM DO! it had been illeagle for something like 150 ~ 200 year for a canadite to take money fro an Oil company. so he bends the truth just like anyone would. if you look in my school the juniors are holding they first elction for senior persident. well me and 2 of the canadate are standing at the door before class and i said look val your going to win anyway becasause of your boob (there like 36dd) she started laguing and now they other guy is saying that she said that and is bending the truth.
Well, I wouldn’t really go after Obama because of his name, that’s a little ridiculous. Anyways though, I do have a problem with him. Mainly with the fact that he’s getting a free pass by the media, in that for a long period of time they weren’t even reporting the connection between Obama and Wright and his hateful views. As already said, any other candidate does this, and they would be out of the candidacy instantly. His ties with Wright really have me worried that someone that hates America will actually become the President. I find this somewhat unsettling. If he hates America, will he rule in the best interest of America?
I’m more of a McCain guy myself. I think that the fact that Obama is inexperienced is a little scary as well. He proposes massive tax hikes, which will probably damage the economy. He wants to rework NAFTA, which would mean us Canadians get screwed over in the deal. I’m thinking McCain, mainly because he is experienced, and so would likely do a better job than an inexperienced, charismatic person as Obama is. If I had to choose any Democrat, I would choose Hilary, mainly because she has more experience, has Bill to help her out, and has an economic plan that would be less damaging to the economy than Obama’s.
Once people realize that both sides play for the same team, things will change. Until then, keep getting further pacified, sheeple. Why do you think the media drowned out Ron Paul? Because the media gets told who is to win the election, and they do essentially a season of American Idol, but with the candidates for Presidency. Now, Ron Paul was going to bring change that the big boys don’t want, and so since the media basically made it seem like he was gonna lose anyway, and stopped paying attention to him, the entire country figured it wasn’t worth the time to support him. If there was no large scale media, Ron Paul would likely destroy all the other candidates when it comes to votes.
“Politics is the entertainment branch of industry” -Frank Zappa
Thanks for backing me up, but it’s kind of hard for anybody to take you seriously when you type like that.
Wyrmfell, unable to go into detail at the moment so I’ll address your post in full in about an hour or so.
Just for the record, I don’t want to get into a debate, as odds are we’re not going to convince each other and just end up creating an argument which you can find on every other forum out there. You’re entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. When you think about it, it’s absolutely impossible to tell who will make a good president until they’re elected, and even then many people still criticize their actions. There’s no such thing as a perfect candidate, and it’s really up to whether you think their good points outweigh their bad.
first oboma doesent hate maerica write does but hvaeing been in his church for 20 yery i dont know if he relly does love america
second the tax hike is not what you think it is. there is this tax that when rased makes anyone making over 200k/year pay more and anyone making under 75k/year pay less it is the same tax that durring bill’s presisendcy was rasied and we had 3 years of supurls. (the government takes in more money then it spends) so its a good tax rasie in other words
Sorry for the extra day long wait.
To everything you just said, great! So for the moment, he can appear to be squeaky clean until he’s elected.
Does it really mean nothing to you that the man who’s running for president won’t respect the national anthem?
I find that youtube video amusing, because Obama is talking about how he’ll have good connections to his Muslim buds. But…Obama is an apostate from Islam, and even here in the west, for instance in the UK, a poll was taken, and even there 37% of Muslims call for execution for apostasy. Apostasy is even worse than murder in the Islamic world, so yeah, Obama would be seen as worse than Bush in their eyes.
Hillary is the way, women are more powerful than men.
Barack Obama
Bomb Iraq ?
really Ron Paul is the way though, no government is a good idea.
*please note these statements could come from an uninformed biased mind 
no, because he would water the numbers down, just by being a poster-boy
now, Hillary as a women will help us reconnect to mother Earth,
what has happened is that as a planet we have become hyper-masculine and this can only result in a restoration of balance to 'the force",
it is inevitable, and it is physics.
Hillary isn’t going to do a thing about the Earth.
This planet hasn’t become “hyper-masculine”, the problems we are having is the direct result of ever increasing industry. The industrial system is one of the most complicated things to think about, to think about the way it TRULY works. Start by throwing away your TV, and maybe listening to some Frank Zappa. The TV is a brainwashing machine that’s been running strong for years and years. Commercials, violence on the news every single day, the idiotic celebrity updates. All of this just dopes up the entire population to make them feel small and it forces them to just not complain, not question, but rather to work as a drone in some factory or elsewhere for your whole life for 10 dollars an hour, slaving, while some millionaire is relaxing and doing whatever he wants. You’ve got the politics deal going on, which as I said before, is nothing more than the “entertainment branch” of industry. It really is.
We are parasites on this world, slowly eating away the body, turning into cars, buildings, factories, etc. What we need is NOT another “democrat or republican”, because they are the same. It’s all a grand scheme that once you can start to recognize it, you can apply it to anything you can think of in our society. It will make SO much sense if you really think about it.
The point is, forget about Hillary Rodham Clinton, throw McCain out the back door, we need a complete and total revolution, and it is inevitable once people start realizing what’s really at play here, and has been for so many years now. Luckily, people are starting to realize.
Communism is the way of the close future, I can almost guarantee that. Some form of it, anyway. Perhaps we will slip into pure anarchy after the government gets overthrown, probably to transition into Socialism.
Amen!
You really think revolution is inevitable ?
I know that we need to help of higher intelligence on our side, the side of honesty and just general, sanity.
When I look this way I say “why even have a physical body though, isn’t being a human a mistake, shouldn’t we be astral or causal, in heavenly abodes?”
so then I look at the idea of laboring classes, this idea of Nephillim they might be called, dark beings that (as in the film 10,000 BC) exploit Earth in order to amass physical resources for themselves.
now this is all muddy-waters
here’s one example of how TV is nonsense: what the FFF&)_SD(*FSJ: is SARZ?
SARZ = marijuana = lsd = hippies = liberalism = homosexualism = atheism = black people = Emanual Goldstein = O-summa = Boogeyman
DISBELIEVE IN THE REALITY OF THE BLACK MAGUS AND CREATE YOUR OWN FREEDOM
someone says pah pah pah (well) fret about this, fret about that
I said, fark! I didn’t even remember those things existed, thanks for reminding !
they don’t exist in mah world! Pwn! The sun likes us 
funny that my words are xorcising things.
funny a tiny poodle can carry terorism inside it, the fret of a grandmother who knows not entirely that control is an illusion
regardless I have Optimism with Hillary, Lizard King, all the industry IS hyper-masculinity, the feminine does not industrialize.
you what do you own the world? how do you own disorder
i do not forsee revolution, I do see evolution and communism because, either we shift to 5th dimensional light as a planet, RIGHT NOW and people are like “oh, I see heaven. lets go to work at the gas station.” and are chilled out and at peace there
or we flood the world
or
only those that want heaven evolve, and let all the laborers be slaves to the system, so we can take their resources from them.
this latter is a good option IMO. just random America
doing its thing,
while we relax and take it easy, refusing to work
the paradox is “i have to work” is not true, free thinking is working, if you randomly roam around your own you should be able to find a commune, or a simple way to get money without having to lie and sell your soul
maybe I can get $5 per word I write on the internet, see, the Universe is more intelligent than your Boss, it sees your good deeds
/n what is dishonest is setting up some sort of website to charge money for your words, its like, hey… I’m Jesus, give me money! That doesn’t fit, does it ? But…
but cascades into what if tangents about things that are all oriented towards keeping this symbol alive $
now what is a symbol? something that holds consensual meaning
if you stop focusing on it it stops being powerful.
$
I wouldn’t say it’s sanity that we need, per se. I believe we need the insanity. Though in essence we are the sane ones, from the other’s POV, we are the fools on the hill, the insane. Let them think it, they will never know anything other than ignorance.
You can see the evil in Hillary’s eyes(even though the president doesn’t actually decide anything, the massive corporations decide it all). If Hillary tried to reduce our industrialization, and do what’s RIGHT, she would get assassinated by the elite forces running this globe.
Point is, it doesn’t matter who wins the election, because all we are really deciding is what we want our puppet to look like. That’s all it is.
Om no that is really not true
you can see what you see in her eyes, I do not see any evil at all
and further-more we are due for massive planetary shifts and changes
the weather is coming, Here’s Tom
your lien of thinking is so pessimistic as to be dangerous to my eyes. Om