The Maths Topic

Eh, no. Leave it to the math freak. :tongue: I have not found the value of x, I have “found” the value of pi. Essentially I haven’t, because the first equation is completely correct; I simply made incorrect transformations in the process to “prove” that pi was 3. Basically, I have incorrectly elmininated our unknown variable x. You see, I can make whatever statement mathematically to assign (or in this case, correlate) the variable x. pi in this case is some constant.

The incorrect part lies when I take the square root out of both sides of the equation; the value within the paranthesis may as well be it’s negative correspondance; and when you actually add that, you don’t get pi = 3 anymore. It may as well be x-pi = ±(x-3).

Alright, if you still want to argue about it, try replacing pi with “4” everywhere in the “proof”. The first equation will be correct, yet the end result (that 4=3) will trivially be incorrect.

Where does he ever say that π=x?

Hi, I’m studying Statistics 1 and I’m stuck on a question on Discrete Random Variables. I have the question and the answer from the mark scheme but I don’t understand how they answered it. If anyone can please explain what I have to do, to answer it would be greatly appreciated.


It’s supposed to be an easy question but I don’t get it. =/

The first table shows the probablity that x is smaller than or equal to a certain value.
The second table will show the probablity that x is precicely equal to a certain value.

Starting with the first entry, from the first table we see that the probablity that x is smaller than or equal to 1 is 0.1. The question then is, what is the probablity that x is precicely 1? Since the probablity that x is smaller than 1 is 0 (1 is the lowest value it can take) the probability that x is precicely 1 must also equal 0.1.

For the second entry, we see from table 1 that the probability that x is smaller than or equal to 2 is 0.2. This means that we have
(probability that x is smaller than 2) + (probability that x is precicely 2) = 0.2
The unknown we are looking for here is the probability that x is precicely 2. The probability that x is smaller than 2 must be equal to the probability that x is precicely 1, since the only smaller value than 2 x can take is 1. Thus we have
0.1 + (probability that x is precicely 2) = 0.2
and we see that the probability that x is precicely 2, and thus the second entry in the solution table, is 0.1.

For the third entry, we carry on the same way. We have
(probability that x is smaller than 3) + (probability that x is precicely 3) = 0.25
The probability that x is smaller than 3 must be the probability that x is precicely 1 + the probability that x is precicely 2, since 1 and 2 are the only lower values x can take. Thus we have
(probability that x is smaller than 3) = 0.1 + 0.1 = 0.2 and
0.2 + (probability that x is precicely 3) = 0.25
and thus (probability that x is precicely 3) = 0.05 - this is the third entry in the solution table.

For the rest, the same general pattern (which I’ve hopefully made clear by now) is followed. Hope this helps. :content:

Proof that .999999… equals 1:

.(9)/3=.(3)

.(3) = 1/3
1/3 · 3 = 3/3
.(3) · 3 = .(9)
So…
.(9) = 3/3 = 1

well, the error lies in that .(3)=1/3 that’s not true :wink:

1/3=.333333333333333…

so therefore it’s not a proof of .9999999… equals 1

Mag, .(3) = .33333333…, it’s just a different notation. :tongue:

No, that just isn’t necessarily the case, and here is why. Lets just use x^2=9.

sqrt(x^2)=sqrt(9)
x=3
so, thats all fine and dandy…but, you’re missing an answer

x=-3 also works as a solution.

Maths topic? Hmm… Well I just learned how to card count a Level 3 advanced strategy for the wonderful game of Blackjack. I’m up $203 this month. :smile:

I have o friend who is able to prove that 1=0,999…, but I forgot how did he do this. Neverthless, I am a maths genius in my parents’ eyes, but reality shows different facts. I don’t think I’m even good.
On the other side… the humanities are also too complicated. They wouldn’t be, if I hadn’t got to read antique books written with totally out-of-date language which barely anyone can nowadays understand…
And one-page long text from these books to memorize, of course :razz:

Hmm…
Let x=0.999…
10x=9.999…
Subtract x from both sides, and
9x=9
x=1
0.999…=1

Something seems funny here:

Seems like your x value has changed

Wouldn’t you need to get a 1=1 type of thing to prove?

Transcendental property of equality: if a=b and b=c, then a=c. That .999…=x was given. From that I proved that x=1. Thus, since .999…=x=1, .999…=1.

Can anyone here explain how the delta-epsilon definition of a limit applies when the limit is infinity? I tried doing it, but everything went kablooie.

Okay, I get that…I wasn’t thinking. I am, however, still confused on this:

I only see x on the left side?

Oh, and delta-epsilon definition - is that:

lim f(x) = L
x > c

= goes to

alright, lambda calculus and combinatory logic. anyone else kinda drools every time they realise once again how exactly the Y combinator works?

Right side is 9.999…
X=0.999…
9.999…-X=9.999…-0.999…=9.

I admit that it’s not at all obvious that that’s allowed.

And for the limit, thanks, but that’s not exactly what I was looking for.

I know. :content: I was trying to confirm that what I posted is the delta-epsilon “version” of the limit.

The delta epsilon definition says that “the limit as x approaches c of f(x)=L” means that for any epsilon (e) > 0, there is a delta (d) > 0 such that if 0<|x-c|<d, then |f(x)-L| < e.

I need help! :tongue:

Probability

  1. You have a deck of cards (52 cards), and pick three.
    What’s the probability to pick 3 different colors?

  2. A family has 4 kids.
    What’s the probability that there are 2 boys?
    (By the way: P(boy) = 0.516), and P(girl) = 0.486)

I know the answeres, but not how to calculate it :confused: