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First Steps to WILD part IV (Basic WILD Q&A)

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player07
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

dear veronika lachgroen
go to my dj and read about my last btb experiment lachgroen there is an instrucions how I did it smile


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

Im pretty sure this question comes up quite often but what the heck can I do to prevent/ stop my heart from racing while trying WBTB?

when I tried WILD one and a half years ago for the first time my heart relly started pumping when I got to the "drifting back" sensation. This night I was close to a hearttattack when my body got numb ^^

saying to myself to stay calm did not really work... do you have any ideas what mantra or thechnique there ist that might help? Beacuase I was on a good way but this really got me back into the waking world...


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

just calm down :D
say to yourself : This is happening with my astral body, there is not anything can hurt me

i also had heartbeating one time in my first OOBE smile lachgroen funny things, really mystical smile


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

I had a similar thing with out of control heart beat and "just calming down" is unfortunately not an option. I haven't been able to come that close to WILDing since though.

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Strange feeling while falling asleep
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I was having trouble getting LD past last few months. I recalled that I was going sleep pretty late so I decided to go sonner to get more sleep time. Yesterday I went to bed earlier and I was thinking about the same thing as usual. Some time later I was feeling little closer to the bed (like on the water bed <- is this how it is called?). I also thought that my heart and breath rate were higher than normal. Was I entering alfa or WILD?

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

Neither
your body is supposed slow down when going into Wild and Alpha


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

LDreamerland wrote:
Neither
your body is supposed slow down when going into Wild and Alpha


Yeah, you're supposed to relax and, if anything, your heart rate etc. would decrease.


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

I have experienced my heart rate increasing when trying to WILD too, I put it down to my thoughts being, "I might be getting somewhere."; that I could feel something. I think that the best advice to avoid this, would be to try and detach yourself from the experience. To try and say it as if it's happening to somebody else, when acknowledging what you are feeling. For example to say that the body is feeling 'whatever' and so on.

It could also simply be the reaction to the feelings, with that I guess the best thing would be to learn about what you might feel. After feeling it a few times your reaction should be calmer.



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some help?
PostPosted: Wed 15 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

Okay, so I tried to WILD with napping... Results:

First I didn┤t feel anything. Then I started to see patterns of violet light. (usually it┤s green) Then my thoughts started spreading around, I couldn┤t really control them. Then I imagined (though I didn┤t realize it), that I would see a burning house. After some time I realized that my face felt very hot and weird, but when I moved, it stopped.

So was that of any good?

EDIT: And btw, Is relaxing needed, if I see the HI without it?


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

Definitely sounding like you're getting there, although I wouldn't know for sure as I haven't got that far myself!

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

I just had the weirdest expirience last night overspannen

ok, so I was doing WILD, when suddenly, bright flashes shone in my eyes. Millions of pin-pricks of red light also shone. My body started feeling....Fake, I guess I could call it...You know how you can sorta tell if your in a dream or not? In dreams, you need to do a reality check, to see if it's a dream or not, but in real life, people can tell, but they do em anyway. Well, I coundn't tell! I felt fake. I touched my face, and It didn't feel like it was mine. I did a reality check, but it said I was still awake. this feeling lasted for the rest of the night, untill I fell asleep. eh


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

Zukoca wrote:
One night I woke up at like 4am and I just sat there on my bed, going sleep1 And I had some Hypnogogic Thoughts. There wasn't imagery, but I was definetly getting some input from my subconscious. Is that the same? Does my subconscious think differently?

same here no HI but my SC seems to chatter when i WILD in fact it has conversations some are so amusing i LOL and get disturbed


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

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One night I woke up at like 4am and I just sat there on my bed, going And I had some Hypnogogic Thoughts. There wasn't imagery, but I was definetly getting some input from my subconscious. Is that the same? Does my subconscious think differently?


Well, its hypnagogic and it is a relatively common experience. It also likely indicates that you were getting close.


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

Is it dangerous to WILD? I mean can it have an effect on your health if you WILD when you go to sleep every night?
I read about narcolepsy yesterday and that's when you enter REM sleep immediately after you fall asleep, instead of later in the night. Alot of people with narcolepsy can fall asleep in the middle of the day at the craziest places, like real deep sleep too, because they don't have that deep sleep at night.

Anyone looked into this?


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Oct, 2008  Reply with quote

I havent... why dont you? ^^

Oh, and i have the problem of waking up when im too tired.. so a just fall to sleep, as for me im lying there for about.. 40 minutes ? before anything happens. Ive WILDed before but that still took as long. Is there a way of shortening this time span?


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