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Phi_guy
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Sep, 2008  Reply with quote

I do no one any good asleep. I have much better things to do than wasting my life in a dream world.

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Stricken
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Sep, 2008  Reply with quote

Alright, let me try rephrasing my argument in a way that those of you who support the idea of an alternative reality can agree. At the least we can come to a middle ground somewhere, no?

Lucid dreams are indeed fun, however, the reality it presents is not the present one. It is not one with the people I know and love, nor the experiences I have had and accepted as true reality. Therefore, I refuse to cast these people and experiences aside as false for the sake of living in a world where I can make up my own. I rather like the idea of actually living through a challenge as opposed to a world where I already have all the answers and solutions to the problems. A reality such as that is simply one I would never like to take part in. Well, not eternally anyway, everyone likes to bend the rules of (perceived) reality every once in awhile, right? grin

Does that sound a bit better, or am I missing the point entirely? I'm trying to make the same argument from a different philosophical perspective, which as it turns out is very hard. Let me know which you prefer.


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meta_phy
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Sep, 2008  Reply with quote

I would say yes, if i was much older around 60 maybe and have already lived a "normal" life. I just want to experience all i can before leaving this world into another reality.

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soulconsole
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

that is the point of lucid dreams. Leave Reality behind enter the spiritual realm and learn about the subconscious mind. ask questions and fly wherever! the experience is real. and so is experience real in Reality. i say LD is a better in which anything can be done without trouble or hesitation therefore influencing us to try it in RL which does have an impact. smile

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Tywald
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

I would probably go nuts inside a Lucid dream that lasts an eternity, mainly becuse dreams can be so abstract and inlogical that i don't think they're fun.

I personally don't like very random dreams whit absolutetly no logics behind them, i walk a few seconds in a desert and when i turn around or blink whit my eyes i'm suddenly in a jungle!
Sure they're fun for a while but i sometimes don't like sudden changes in dreamscapes and appearance of characters whitout my knowledge.

And who knows? Perhaps we were inside a "dream" before we walked on this planet but went nuts inside it becuse we wanted a reality in wich everything was persistent and "moved on" whitout us affected it all the time?

So if you mean a dream world like our dreams were things go random....no thanks.

- Tywald


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tyrael
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

Tywald wrote:
I would probably go nuts inside a Lucid dream that lasts an eternity, mainly becuse dreams can be so abstract and inlogical that i don't think they're fun.

I personally don't like very random dreams whit absolutetly no logics behind them, i walk a few seconds in a desert and when i turn around or blink whit my eyes i'm suddenly in a jungle!
Sure they're fun for a while but i sometimes don't like sudden changes in dreamscapes and appearance of characters whitout my knowledge.

And who knows? Perhaps we were inside a "dream" before we walked on this planet but went nuts inside it becuse we wanted a reality in wich everything was persistent and "moved on" whitout us affected it all the time?

So if you mean a dream world like our dreams were things go random....no thanks.

- Tywald

The way you put that was very creepy. It made me question my entire existence. GOOD JOB!! uhh


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DanielWestman
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

I would not be able to just leave my girlfriend and family behind in the "real" world and go living by myself in a LD. But if I could take them with me, I would totally go for it.

Sure I could summon them in my LD and go on as usual, and maybe I would forget that they aren't real after a couple of years, but I still wouldn't be able to leave them in the first place.


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Tomothy
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

I would definitely give up this world for a Lucid Dream world as long as the LD world didn't last forever.

If it did last forever I'd still be very tempted though.


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goodknight
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absolute escapism
PostPosted: Tue 18 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

You gotta be kidding? All forms of consciousness have appeal. Why would we want to limit ourselves to one state.

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Nov, 2008  Reply with quote

there is no way to escape, or anywhere to; for there is nothing and nowhere to escape from or to.

there is nothing and nowhere to escape from or to; for there is no way to escape, or anywhere to.


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