First Steps to WILD part V (Basic WILD Q&A)

Oh, okay. Thanks Dragon ;D
Having gone the last three nights with only one glimmer of a dream, I should probably work on recall first :ack:

i dont really know where to post this subject, but when first laying down and doing wild about how long does it take for you to enter your dreams.

and do i need to reamin completely still cause i sometimes get uncomfortable and move

It takes a long time unless you WBTB first or do it in the middle of the day then it takes a lot less time. You need to be completely still and relaxed. Try to ignore your body completely. Don’t move at all. Try not to think about your breathing either. Try to keep your mind busy though, like thinking “1. I’m dreaming. 2. I’m dreaming…” until you realize you really are dreaming.

like does it take longer than 90 minutes until you can enter your dream

and how would you enter the dream will your mind start having images till they become constant and your dreaming

It doesn’t take long if you WBTB. The HI you start to see during WILD will eventually turn into images and then finally into a dream.

no for WILD does it take over like 90 minutes to start to dream

It really just depends on how easily you fall asleep and how tired you are at the time. I don’t think it’s ever taken me 90 minutes to get to a dream, though; usually I’ve given up on WILD for the night by then. :razz:

iv tryed to WILD alot o times but only succsesful 1s
i didnt do it intetionally but i think i did use the WBTB method aswell
i woke up in the middle of the night and just went to sleep with the intention of LDing in mind. didnt take to long for me
i think when u begin its all a case of aiting for your mind to get used to what your trying to do.
the majority of the times i WILD i just end up falling asleep normally, waiting for the HI to show up.

I have a question about WILD , more of a problem, here it is:
When i start trying to stay focused and keep repeating 1, “i’m dreaming, 2 i’m dreaming” etc. I find that my mind just naturally wanders off, I start imagining without even realizing and completely forget about staying focused.

So in other words, how can i keep focused on keeping focused :tongue:
Maybe another way instead of “1 i’m dreaming”?

Thanks

Yesterday I had my first LD, and it lasted for ~2 minutes. I was semi-lucid, and the man who was there asked me to do something and come back today, so he could help me. I didn’t remember any dream today, so I tried WILDing at ~5 PM. Everything goes well, but I get to a point that I get a bit “mixed up” with what I’m thinking, and I jerk my leg. I tried it again, and I did the same.
Does this “jerking” happen just before the dream? I suppose so because the things I were thinking about just before I jerked were more vivid than when I started to relax.
Thanks for your time :smile:

i need some help! today i tried wild in an afternoon nap and after about 20 minutes my whole body went numb and i felt like i was falling and spinning on my axis and my hands were waving around and all this crazy stuff but i didnt know what to do. like i think i could feel my dream body trying to disconnect from my real one but i didnt know how to do it. i tried imagining climbing a rope out of my body or falling through the bed but those didnt work. any suggestions?

ok… I know its supposed to be hard to WILD without WBTB, but I just lied motionless for 3 hours and never saw any HI. My entire body was “buzzing” though. Is it normal to lie there that long without results. It is possible I fell asleep without realizing it,though, and I actually have some evidence that happened judging that I don’t remember hearing the second of two hour long binaural beat tracks when I was there longer than an hour. I think I will try to WBTB. I’ll let you all know how that god in the morning.

p.s. I’m writing this from my iPod touch, so sorry if I have some typos or any weir out of place words. AND I’m really tired :smile:

Anyone who has ever had a WILD I need to know how you did it. Please help me. I don’t understand it and would like some descriptions of it.

Tygon and SlyPT, when I WILD, I try to focus on my body relax it. After that, I imagine each individual part (first my feet, them my legs, then my torso, etc.) is falling into my bed. That’s when I come very close to SP and start seeing HI. I then imagine a dream scene, usually that I am flying over a meadow. I try to make it first person, but I flit in and out of first and third person. Eventually it starts to feel like it’s real. I don’t get much further than that as I lose consciousness, but I’m getting closer and closer each day! The point is to fall into a dream that I am flying over the said meadow. Don’t give up and try to come up with a technique that works for you. If you look here you will find many different ways to WILD.

Can i use an alarm or do i just have to use autosuggestion?

using an alarm is fine

I tried WILD last night and for the first time I actually got close. Contrary to most advice, I tried it right when I got into bed instead of after several hours of sleeping. I’ve tried it the other way as well, but I think my body only needs ~4 hours of sleep because every time I try it in the middle of the night I just lie in bed awake. So this time, I went to bed ~2 hours later than I usually do, and focused on WILDing. I got close, and probably would have made it if I didn’t get scared.

My question is: how do you deal with the “choking point” of WILD? It felt like my body was trying to swallow my tongue, and my throat was tightening up. Despite my body naturally doing this I still had control over it, so after going what seemed like 30 seconds without breathing I made myself stop. I also tried breathing while my throat was that tight and it made me start snoring - I guess now I understand why people snore. :smile: I also heard a ringing noise at first, but over time it changed…it sounded weird, I guess that’s normal though. Also random muscles in my body started twitching, I don’t think they actually were but it felt like they were moving. Overall, it felt like what I imagined having a seizure would feel like. :tongue:

So how do you get past that? What exactly are you supposed to do when it feels like someone is grabbing your neck and you can’t breathe? Are you supposed to go long periods of time without breathing, because it freaked me out…

Actually, you ARE breathing :wink: What happens is your SC gets control of the breathing and then when you try to consciously breathe you can’t. That’s why it feels like you’re suffocating. Nothing to worry about because your SC is taking care of everything.

The trick to get past this is to try to completely ignore it. It might be hard, but try to not think about the breathing and focus on what you would want to dream about or on any HI if you’ve got them.

I have a question about WILD. It seems like everyone is having a problem getting into their dream, but my problem is staying in my dream. I can get into my dream in a matter of seconds, but when I try to become conscious of my dream and get lucid, I fall back out of the dream. I can’t spin around or rub my hands together in my dream because I would have to be conscious to do that. Any suggestions?

Okay so I have only recently started experimenting with WILD. I am familiar with relaxation exercises and have been practicing maintaining awareness while relaxing the body.

Let me briefly describe my experiences so far. At first I just try and passively observe my thoughts and let them go. I then systematically relax my body starting with my facial muscles. I then try to silently observe my thoughts while my body is becoming relaxed. I have experienced slight visuals taking the form of a very dim swirling whitish/gray light I suppose you could call it. Today while practicing I reached this level where there were no visuals but suddenly my body felt very “energized”. My heart began to beat faster and I kind of told myself to come back to my body. I didn’t know else where to take it.

Could someone explain to me what I have experienced so far? How close am I towards the level of carrying this over to lucid dreaming?