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Transcendental meditation?
PostPosted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

Iv`e heard about this technique called transcendental meditation, wich is said to be a very powerful and useful technique. However I have not heard much about what exactly it does, and how the technique is performed. Is there anybody here how can tell me a bit about it? I`m really interested in this!

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

I think it's very similar to regular meditation. You repeat a mantra with your eyes closed for 20-30 minutes. They say, however, that only trained and skilled teacher can teach you how the procedure's done. It costs $2,500 to join a course, so it is pretty expensive...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditatio n


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

Lucid_Viking wrote:
I think it's very similar to regular meditation. You repeat a mantra with your eyes closed for 20-30 minutes. They say, however, that only trained and skilled teacher can teach you how the procedure's done. It costs $2,500 to join a course, so it is pretty expensive...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditatio n


That sucks, I don`t think there are even people in my hometown that can train people...


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

Don't worry, Childhood - I don't think TM is any more effective than many of the other types of meditation. If you are interested in having tuition, I'm sure there must be a yogic centre or other meditational school near where you live. wink

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

The $2500 thing is basically a scam that has been running since the 70s.

It's like going to a rock concert and having to pay $20 for a bottle of water...

I'm sure some clever googling would get you it for free. (If not TM, then something better.)


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

Haha, My dad learned that during the 70's in college. Seeing as he was eating top raman for lunch every day, i doubt he paid that much for it. I don't think theres that much to it, just practice, becuase he said that you had a few lessons with an experianced person, and then they let you do it on your own. But it is a rather useful type of meditation, he even said that he's projected with it a few times...by accident.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

But what is the difference between transcendental meditation and other forms of meditation? I found this site on the web:

www.davidlynchinstitute.com
David Lynch is working with other people to make the schools in america use TM on their students, because it helps them to learn, furthermore it helps them consentrate and it kills depression. There must be SOMETHING special with TM?


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

Childhood wrote:
it helps them to learn, furthermore it helps them consentrate and it kills depression.


That may be true.

But, Draginvry's Meditation does the same thing.

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There must be SOMETHING special with TM?


Unlikely. Meditation is only as good as the person practicing it.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

TM is simply meditating with some sort of mantra that is given to the student. It's a great way to make mony if you can trick people into thinking that you have a secret mantra that will skyrocket their meditation abilities. Anyway that's what I got out of it from the research I've done.

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

i have been to course when i was like 10 with my family. the only different thing is that they give you a special mantra.

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Apr, 2006  Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing that up that's what I thought.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Dont try it. It almost ruined my life.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Childhood wrote:
Dont try it. It almost ruined my life.


ehm, would you care to explain that a bit more in detail?


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

There's a site available here that provides an TM FAQ produced by dissenters of the practice. TM is allegedly a very expensive religion based on Hindu mysticism. Here's an excerpt from the page:

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From: TM-EX Bulletin, November, 1991

HISTORY: Transcendental Meditation (TM), was initiated in India,
October 1955, by the then called Maharishi Bala Brahmachari Mahesh
Yogi Maharaj (life long celibate student and great seer), now called
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (great seer). When asked about his wealth,
Maharishi claims to be only a simple monk without pockets. He lives
in TM facilities with silk-lined walls, flies in personal helicopters
and has had a private 707 jet.

His teaching evolved from an overtly religious one; admitting the
mantras (word used to meditate upon) are "personal gods" with the
practice called "Spiritual Sadhana," "Deep Meditation," or the
cleverly disguised trademarked brand "Transcendental Meditation
Program."

[...]

MANTRAS: The mantras are chosen based upon secret criteria of
"neurophysiological specificity." Court documents reveal that they
are chosen on the basis of age and/or age and sex. The highly secret
words are the names associated with Hindu deities (Shyama = Krishna).
"We select only mantras of personal gods... such mantras fetch to us
the grace of personal gods" -- Maharishi. Mantras are given in a
candlelit incense-filled room, during an initiation ceremony where the
teacher encourages the student to bow before the picture of
Maharishi's dead teacher.

SUPERNORMAL POWERS: The movement claims its followers will develop
powers of: levitation, invisibility, reading minds, perfect health,
immortality and more.


You can find every TM mantra online for free, if interested. I suspect that they are not especially useful, based on my reading of TM.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Yes. TM is a cult, not a simple meditation technique. It basically sais that it is so that it can drag people into it without them noticing. Its wasting peoples lives and money and should be at all costs avoided, and it should be told to the public that its dangerous to you and not good at all. I wrote down my personal story on my computer that is now being repaired. Ill post it here, but its a long story though.

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