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Wond3rland
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Simply put, no. I would not. I would never. It's money. Green pieces of paper. Nothing more.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Wond3rland wrote:
Most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Simply put, no. I would not. I would never. It's money. Green pieces of paper. Nothing more.


It wouldn't sound so ridiculous if you needed the money badly enough. But, all the same, exchanging any material thing for any life is not only selfish but immoral. Very immoral.



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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

If there is a 1% chance of getting killed when you press the button:

I would look at the expected value. I rate winning, say, $200,000 dollars as (+200000). I rate dying as (-infinity) or negative infinity.

So, using my utility function or my ratings of the outcomes, there is an expected value of pushing the button at:

[limit a->negative infintiy] 0.99*(200000) + 0.01(a) which approaches negative infinity.

I would not push the button even once.


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Hey, lazyastronomer, that's now the Minotaur topic which disappeared without a trace.

Anyway, I would never press the button.
I actually don't need money.

I've got everything I need...I REALLY don't care about money.


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Wahahahha! Push the button! ebil Money!!!

Just kidding. I would never do it because the man/woman you kill also has a familie. And imagine, if the person you'll kill is someone you know, could you live with that? The thought that you killed someone... help!


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Once again, if you were desperate.
You would want to.
As everyone is right now, of course not.
If you're homeless in the middle of winter, there is a good chanced you would do it. VERY good chance.

As it is now, it is greed.
In that situation, it's life or death for you.



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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

But would you condemn someone else and their family to save yourself?
Could you live with the fact that you pushed the button?

Could you watch someone die right before your eyes, and know you killed them?


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

You say it's enough money to set a couple for life...
Then I would push the button and use the money to save at least 2 people from death.
In fact, saving only 2 people isn't even that expensive, mostly it's only vacines and stuff that those people are lacking. Just give it all away and you can save way more people.

If you kept some money and spent it on luxury then you would feel guilty and greedy every time you looked at the item you bought (and make you remember how that 1 live wasn't 'used' to its full potential to save others), so give it all away. I think you could live with that, 1 live... in exchange for countless others. However, you may never find out who had to be killed in order for that cos that would be devastating on your mind.


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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Who are we to decide who lives and who dies?

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

there's no way i'd push the button. not even because someone i know might die, but because i wouldnt be able to live knowing i was responsible for someone else's death.

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

I don't think it would be fair to justify pressing the button because you'll donate the money to save others' lives, because I think you can't decide something like that, I mean what if it was you who died because someone else decided to press the button? The point is someone else decided, so even if I agreed it's worth sacrificing my own life to save many others', it's not fair for someone else to decide that

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Well, many of you have been overlooking something. When the button is pushed, ONE (1) person dies, but, it is never specified WHO dies. So it could be you, it could be your couple, it could be a familiar or friend, anyone. And it is never specified that you may know who dies, it only says that someone dies, you know someone does, but not who or where. Neither does it specify how does the person die, or that such person and/or his/her family may or may not know that it was your fault.
Also, since it says that a couple is asked to push the button, there's a chance that your partner might not agree with your decision, since both of you are asked to push it, not just one.
With that being said, I wouldn't push the button, I am not Ok with the idea of killing someone. That's what I would say ignoring the fact that I could die, so taking that in mind, whit more determination I would refuse.
But then, there may be those that would argue that since lots of people die all the time, everyday, at all moments, they would simply push the button since they couldn't filter out who they killed. That is, if they understand that they could die and are willing to take that risk.
I guess that's all I have to say for now.



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PostPosted: Fri 04 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

I would never stoop to that low level of greed.

To end someone's life to make your life more enjoyable is just wrong.


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

the only reason i would push the button is cause people are dieing everywhere in the world every minute, so it would kinda be like getting free money. People are always dieing so it wouldn't be any different from normal anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

That's nice.

So you wouldn't mind if I just killed your parents?
You see, you don't know who dies.

Not all people ''die everywhere in the world every minute''.
Who knows when you will die.Let say for two years. Just kidding :D

Let say for 60 years.And if I kill you right now, it's not like getting free money at all.
You get the point?


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