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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec, 2009  Reply with quote

One could always ask the guidance of the higher self; the part of us that not embodied and indirectly guide us.

That's a real "independent" guide from our bodily-self that we are. It has better perspective than us in our evolutionary trip.

The more you get close to your higher self, the more you'll know what you came here to do.

Call your Higher Self up for a dream meeting!


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Dec, 2009  Reply with quote

I see DC s as a fragment of my mind and thus, I see them as teachers to my conciouss, limited self wink5

I've had DC experiences during my childhood. I had friends, that would stick with me for a period of time, until I would realize something, then we would merge. I also had an innocent love for one of my female characters. But we both realized this sort of relationship was to end when the time would come. And it came. I don't see falling in love with a DC as literal love for a individual or person, it's just your mind sending a message in the most appealing way ^^ I mean, it's way better than the unintentional, primitive erotic dreams I sometimes allow myself to have now in my teenage phaze :D not that I have trouble with relationships in RL. I just think life and emotion is not only around you, but also within you. Grasp the moment and the DC / your mind may teach you so much.


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PostPosted: Fri 11 Dec, 2009  Reply with quote

I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking of Dcs as friends. I have met some Dcs that didn't seem that intelligent or coherent, but I wouldn't go as far too call them puppets. I can't really control my Dcs in my dreams. There have been times when I made Dcs disappear by yelling at them, but that's as far as I have gone in controlling my dream characters.

There are three types of Dcs I've met; those who I can tell are a figment of my imagination, those with their own personalities, which make them seem real and the ones that seem like separate entities. I've only ran into the third type once or twice, but even that was enough to change my perception of Dcs and what they really are.


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PostPosted: Sat 12 Dec, 2009  Reply with quote

Ch3rry wrote:
There are three types of Dcs I've met; those who I can tell are a figment of my imagination, those with their own personalities, which make them seem real and the ones that seem like separate entities.


Could you tell us more about that last type? eh


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Dec, 2009  Reply with quote

Interesting thoughts everyone!

I think I'm getting to the point where I could see dream characters as friends, that is if they seem to have a personality of some sort. I guess I don't see why not.


~Namine


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Re: Dream characters: Friends or Puppets?
PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

Namine wrote:
So, suppose you were a typical lucid dreamer; one who does it every night.

Typical lucid dreamer?

No, not even Q gets LD's every night.

Or does she? eh



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Re: Dream characters: Friends or Puppets?
PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

Mew151 wrote:
No, not even Q gets LD's every night.

Or does she? eh


I know a few. Pedro, Writerscube, Grand Speculator, Presence of Light, Wyvern, some more active users, and a lot more who keep themselves hidden because they have basically nothing to ask



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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

Haha, you're right. They probably don't have anything to ask. Luckies... ): I'd do anything to LD dream every night at will.

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

When it comes to DC's who happen to be best friends of mine IRL I can tell them that they are in a dream, and they act as though they were separate beings of conscious within my dream.

My favourite dream I ever remember was I was in high school with my friend Andrew and Dave, And right near the science block, I became lucid. I turned to them and said,

"Guys, we're actually in a dream right now, This isn't real?"

Huge grins appeared on their faces and Andrew said, "Cool, I had a feeling...."

Then we went around using superpowers around the school, which is a lot easier when you have "friends" who you see doing them first.

"Hey have you tried this power Truman?"

"No, I can't get that power to ever wor---wait it's working!"


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

Get a label maker.



Have had dreams with puppets. They sent a rocket through to a puppet house with large big explosions.
(in a high pitch voice) Puppet World!


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

[Ordinary] DCs Friends or Puppets?

[My two cents (are they at least accurate)?]

Neither!

They are yourself

sometimes even your higher self!

unless it's a separate entity, like an enlightened friend who can visit you

that might happen sometimes

not much that i know of

maybe we run into random people? or maybe a lot of the real stuff occurs in the moments in between dreams that we don't remember just yet (and of course, not just random people, but significant people)

and maybe sometimes negative entities, but only if you have that tendency...a lot of them might just be negative symbols in your psyche, remember that

but some can be real


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

I have several "dream friends" who pop up in my dreams time after time smile But they're not completely fictive (sometimes they are, but completely fictive persons are usually seen only in 1-2 dreams) - they're based on my old school mates!
But still they ARE quite fictive, because those schoolmates are some people that I never even knew very well (I was shy in school neutral ) and whom I haven't met for many, many years (they're from the elementary school)! eek2 Besides, they have many differences to the real persons they're based on - first of all they have of course grown up from the times when I actually saw them, and secondly, many of them have a new name, that sort of remainds of their real name, but isn't similar eek2
Then there's also this girl that I used to have a crush on, but who now is out of reach - she's often in my dreams, and in the dreams we share the same feelings towards each other wiske
Am I weird? shy2 Maybe I should get a real life or something? (hey, it's not like I don't have any real friends! grrr My real friends just nowadays live far away, all of them cry hmmm... *now seriously goes to get some new real friends!*


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

Oh... I forgat the question itself! woo
Well, I don't see them as puppets at all - even if I'd be sooo lucid, I can't control their behavior. Or actually I've never even tried, 'cause that would feel somehow wrong and boring.
And btw, the discussions with the dream friends are really hilarious if you remember them afterwards from word to word woo Usually their talk sounds slightly like nonsense, but when you really think about it or ask more precise questions, it starts to make sense (in the dream, at least). Anyhow, there is always something mysterious about what they say, and their jokes are reeeally weird, but feel funny in the dream. Besides, they're always mixing languages - my two native languages plus english - just randomly... and the words they choose, are never really accurate, but something "directional".
And yes, they certainly do have their own personalities.


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

I treat my DC's with respect, I don't go starting fights or intentionally killing DC's. When it comes to sex in them I'm normally very shy and try and talk, and be like would you like to... i mean it's okay if you don't want to...

I'm going to treat them with more respect after reading this.



I had an issue with my lucid dreaming.

Yesterday, I read this thread and decided to try it out. I slept from midnight until about 4:30am, I didn't really dream much then (that I remembered at all at 4:30am) I went back to sleep thinking "great, now's the perfect time!" I drifted back to sleep and started dreaming. I stopped in the middle of someone's sentence, in my dream, and told them "HEY. I'm lucid dreaming! I can do whatever I want! And then I took a couple steps back so I could push off to fly and some force pressed down on me, like hands on my shoulders. The person I was speaking to said "just because you realize it, doesn't mean you can forget about OUR reality" I told her "nope, you don't mean a thing" and started to focus on my hands. Her face appeared over my hands and just said "No, ____ ____ ____ (my full name)"

What the ***.

There a higher power, and some of them might be having a shared dream with you or something. I can't even believe I typed that since I'm usually the skeptic.


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

Well, this is an interesting discussion indeed.

However, DC's really are simply representations of the unconscious contents of one's mind. They really can't be "friends" or "equals" if one considers the conscious mind as something above the unconscious. But, since every "conscious" human being identifies with his or her ego-consciousness (i.e. why we can say "I am conscious." The "I" there being the identification with the ego), the unconscious seems strange to us and therefore DC's wouldn't really be "puppets" either, as they would seem to have their own personalities, motives, images associated with them, etc.

I think that DC's are rather something else entirely. As I said before, they are representations, and thus vary from person to person. As I said before, they can't really be "friends" in the sense that they are truly a different person, but a person can definitely have friendly relations with them. Rightly so, having that kind of relationship might even help a person in understanding more about themselves, since DC's are representations of a part of the mind.



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