I recently had a couple of discussions on dreams and stuff with 2 people. One was very intelligent and open minded (lenore the cute dead girl) and she has now joined the forum actually! The other was this guy who was very naive and would not accept anything. Talk about being narrow minded! More like CLOSED minded! Anyway…the conversation we had was rather interesting and I though some people might find it a good read so I thought I’d make this post. It aint the conversation itself…it’s a summary of what I was talking about! Here goes…
When I described lucid dreaming to someone and they said it sounded like day dreaming. It couldn’t be more far from the truth! Someone else said to me that dreaming is far more real than day dreaming and that its almost as real as waking life. That is wrong as well…dreaming is just as real as RL. The mind model proves that the dream world is as real to you as RL.
Everything I’m about to say is in relation to the real world. Do not assume anything about dreaming yet…
You cannot see.
You cannot smell.
You cannot taste.
You cannot touch.
You cannot hear.
See the computer in front of you right now? If you said yes then you are wrong. It might not really be there. It’s all about the “mind model”.
You don’t see…your eyes do. Your eyes are instruments used to detect light. Your eyes see the computer FIRST HAND then pass SECOND HAND data to your brain and your mind makes a model of the world using all the data from your senses. Everything you experience is actually in your head…you don’t experience the world. You experience a model of the world made in your mind…
Your mind model is perfect…perfectly models the real world. Your mind model includes all the physical objects that your eyes see in the real world. If they didn’t then you may walk into a tree which you somehow can’t see!
There is no human body part which is used as an instrument to detect radio waves. Therefore there is no data sent to the brain about radio waves…therefore they are not included in our mind model. Radio waves are as real as light and sound but we don’t experience them in our world due to the lack of information sent to our brains for the mind model.
OK. Hope people followed that. Read it again before complaining to me.
You experience the world in the exact same way when you dream. Using the exact same mind model. Only difference is where the data comes from…
Most of the senses are shut down during sleep so very little data is sent to be used in the mind model. Therefore we take extra data from our minds such as memories and wishes. It is important to understand that we feel the same as we do when we are awake…we feel like we are experiencing the real world.
When we become lucid we gain conscious control of the dream. Now… in RL it is possible to have good visualization skills…I can clearly make someone’s face appear in front of me. But it’s still imagination…it isn’t really in your vision right there in front of you. It’s impossible to change or edit the data being sent to us via our eyes and ears etc. But in a dream we don’t get the data from our eyes and ears… We get it from our minds.
A dream is made entirely by yourself. By your mind. You usually don’t realise this though and that’s why you “go with the flow” and think you are living the real world and get on with your life. By becoming lucid you realise that the whole world around you is created by your mind. Now…if the WHOLE mind model is created by you…then that means the WHOLE mind model is in your mind. Therefore you can change ANYTHING. Literally…if you can imagine it then you can do it. It is actually impossible to think of something that is impossible in a dream.
Sorry about that guys. It was quite badly written I’m sure and maybe a bit pointless but I felt like sharing it. The person I was talking to accepts how we experience the world through a mind model but will not accept that in a dream we can do anything. The fact that it’s in our mind is why anything can be done!
Anyway… one last thing. If you did not know about the mind model before reading this…then PLEASE stop sometimes and think about the world around you. Think about how everything you are experiencing is just a model based on reality. This will help your ability to become lucid if you can comprehend this.