thankyou mattias 
, i completly understand, i tried this last night, and, (bearing in mind ive only had one vague ld before) it was the strangest experience, first try. Nothing happened, second try, after only 30 seconds, i try breathe wilst pinching my nose… and it workes, and i had literally such an amazing sensation as i knew i was breathing through my fingers. This then developed into a really strange ld. i knew i was dreaming, so i got up out of my bed, but everything was fuzzy, my head was dizzy and it felt like my head was filled with helium and trying to float to the cealing, i floated a bit off the ground, then all of a suden fell straight back into my bed and woke up. It was really strange but rather shortlived. Definatly trying it again tonite:) thank you for this technique, it is truely like golddust to me at the moment.
haha, awesome! I have the feeling FILD tends to give such hazy LD’s, at least in the beginning. There should be some nice techs to stabilize and increase the vividness and lucidity at that point, but I should let someone more experienced talk about that 
There was some talk on FILD in this topic, you might find something that just might help in there… Good luck!
When drumming your fingers, do you keep your eyes closed?
And do you set your alarm for 3 hours after going to sleep?
Yep, eyes closed. And FILD should be done in the middle of the night or early morning when you are really really tired.
yea ive been trying it but setting my alarm for 4 am. i think it must be because summers comeing, as the birds simply wont let me go to sleep again 
so i think trick for me might be go to bed earlier and set alarm for maybe 3 am
definately gonna give this method a try toight
the first time i tried this it worked but it hasnt ever since
First post here
I’ve only had lucids when I have a kid. I just started a serious dream journal. I have yet to purposely achieve lucidity.
Trying FILD with the counting technique on the first page of this topic, tonight.
Welcome and good luck! 
failure! faulty relaxation. I need a good method - under certain circumstances I can easily be on the border of dreams, but when I try, I’m just too inexperienced yet.
My first goal when I have a concrete lucid is to throw a bunch of leaves in the air, and quickly impale each on a sword
After last night^ I tried the 61 point relaxation technique. What a masterpiece!! I didn’t even get to the 5th point before I remember dreaming, but I lost focus and fell asleep. Anyway, now that I know I can relax, I’ll try some different stuff. Gonna take a midday nap pretty soon, I’ve been working out in the heat. Should I use a different technique for naps?
Didn’t work for me last night, but my alarm clock is across the room from my bed, so I had to get out of bed to turn it off, so that may be the issue. I also overslept the day before.
I was so close last night, but i had the strangest feeling that my consciosness was leaving my WL body and entering my dream body but after that it went away cus i must have got excited. That hapened like 3 times then i fell asleep.
Hey, that’s pretty good! 
Just keep trying and you’ll get there.
Next time you feel your consciousness going to your dream body try to imagine you really are there and try to feel and use your senses. Do this by simply imagining. In this state imagined sensations become really vivid quick and then you have something to hold onto in the dream world as it stabilizes around you.
What i just realized is if i would have done a RC at that moment my consciosness would have been enough in the dream that it would have probably worked (the reality check). i will try that tonight.
This sounds like a really cool technique. I’ll try it tonight and report in on how it went tomorrow.
Last night I tried this technique, without any prior lucid dreaming experience. Went to bed at 5:15 AM (yes terrible sleeping schedule) and woke up at 10 AM. I’m always really drowsy when I wake up, but I somehow remembered why I was awake.
I was lying face down and after disabling my alarm I was too tired and drowsy to roll around on my back, so I just started the finger technique with my fingers in the air. I think it took me 3-5 seconds before I started seeing vague images and hearing sounds.
I then saw a huge yellow perfect-shaped arrow in front of me, and after waiting for a bit I remembered reading about how you need to “try and step into images” when nothing happens. So I tried really hard to move into it, I even vaguely remember trying the nose breathing RC somewhere (but can’t remember the outcome) and kept telling myself I had to get in that arrow to start my lucid dream.
The very next moment I’m wide awake in my bed and can’t move my body. Since I never got SP before I’m panicking and start screaming my lungs out, and my mother runs into my room very worried. The end.
After sleeping some more hours and waking up, the first thing I did was walk up to my mom and ask her if I woke up screaming. She said she didn’t know what i’m talking about, so the last part didn’t actually happen.
I’m pretty confused now what actually happened. Was I on the edge of lucid dreaming? Or was I just having a “normal” dream where my mind processed all the information I read the night before?
Okay, so it didn’t go too well last night. When I woke up from the alarm, I shut it off and got back in bed and then I go blank. I think I forgot to do the finger thing so that was probably the problem. At least I’ve got loads of time to keep trying it.
Zeal, your mother entering your room was a dream, or simply a hallucination, you get lots of those in SP. Sinse you were in SP you didn’t actually scream out loud.
You seem to have gotten close, keep trying If you get SP again, try to relax and focus on the images you see. If you end up panicking again, there is no use screaming or trying to move, that only makes things worse. If you really want to get out of SP I recommend breathing faster. After a few seconds of that you should be free. 
Hi, I was trying this method last night. I went to bed and tried to relax and then moved my fingers being careful to ot use much energy. I tried once, and dind’t work, so I waited for some time (maybe 5 mins) the tried again and while moving my fingers I saw an image with white, black and purple, forming circles and squares, I saw it for just 1 second because it was freaking scaring. My heart then started beating very fast and I had to wait to get relaxed again. (I say relax, but I was tired all the night) I thought it was something that almost never happens, so I tried again and the same thing happened. I was freaked out.
Then I decided to stop trying for the night.
What was that image I saw? Is it normal? Any suggestion?
I’ve never had a LD, so this may be the closest attempt.