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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

Has anyone attempted taking a pocket coffee after you
wake up during the night?

I think it might induce that state of mind required to go lucid...


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

kinko:

God damned smile. I just noticed this topic and i wrote some time ago about this same thing in Finnish LD forum smile.

I noticed coffees effect about half year ago. My girlfriend is mostly sleeping my place and she usually go's to school earlyer than me.
So when she wakes up for school, i make some coffee and enjoy it. After she goes to school i go back to bed.

My dreams are much more accurate and also it's easyer to get Dild. I supose it could also help with Wild. smile


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

I'll have to try this. I don't drink coffee very often but I don't mind it. I've had no luck so far with falling asleep conciously - I just fall asleep.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

So I need not have tried mint tea, I could have stayed with my usual coffee


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

OK, coffee contains caffiene. The caffiene works like a very mild herione. Anyway, it basiclly stops you from entering deep sleeps or trances. This keeps you in REM sleep longer and you wake up with more vivid dream scenes. This also contributes to the exuasted feeling whne you get up, because you have had little Non-REM. So when you feel exuasted, what do you do, go and drink another coffee or tea. Ofcourse the effects are mild, so you don't completely loose out on non-REM.

I personally drink half a cup as I go to bed. And set my alarm to go off at 7.



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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

The Wakeup-take pocket coffee-back to bed thing didn't work for me...
Just wanted to let you know..


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

I can only theorise that the caffiene effect wore of before you awoke or that it effected you less strongly than me or other people.


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

I think the amount of coffee contained in a 'pocket coffee' must be not that large to have enough of an effect. It also contains some chocolate however...

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

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think the amount of coffee contained in a 'pocket coffee' must be not that large to have enough of an effect.

Are you joking? I drank a whole cup of tea before bed and was still awake at one in the morning. Whne I did get to sleep, I suffered a lack of non-REm and waked up feeling refreshed, but in some ways exuasted.

Also, drinking tea has more consequences than you think. Having to suffer the noise of you parents having sex is realy bad. It is a horror, that I could best describe as throwing your monitor out of the windows and pushing it really hard so it hits the ground and smashes even more. I was just about to get to sleep and when I became aware I tried to drag my self into an LD - of which this type of induction is very rare, but very lucky. (for me anyway). When you hear your parents doing it you just want to shriek "shut the hell up" or to pick up something and smash it against the wall. Its this sort of overwhelming anger which gives you the desire to smash things up or alternativly go deaf.

Well that's m,y rant over. So I'm going to let myself sleep tonight. So I can actually get proper sleep.



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PostPosted: Mon 09 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

kinko wrote:
yes, thats what I thought, but, caffine actually gives me a short burst of energy, and dies away really fast. Besides, you want to be awake before you go to sleep, right? you want to stay awake while your physical body goes to sleep



I know what you mean, i have the same affect to caffeine. I want to experiment more on this b/c my recall really sucks and i smoke pot. Jeff told me some time ago, it could help and counter act the effect from memory loss. It works most of the time, i just get bad bellyaches when i drink coffee before i sleep. Sometimes my stomach will hurt the entire night. I was thinking of just cappuccino, but im not sure if that has the same affect. I need to get more involved with this, i think once i get on top of this, ld's might show up wink


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

I think the dosage with coffee experimentsd is extremely important!
And its wiser to first have at least 5 hours of sleep so u had your deep sleep and are rested.
But the real trick comes from calculating/testing the precise dosage.

Interesting would be 5htp and the right dosage of coffee after 5 of sleep.
Worth some experimenting smile
Or the precise dosage of coffee mixed with calea.


My coffee smell experiment still rocks for rememberign my dreams.
but u need ear plugs lol those machines make a grrr noise lol.

Jeff


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Feb, 2004  Reply with quote

Yesterday I had an LD and I had tried drinking decaf coffee.
I'll try again tonight...


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

I read somewhere, I think on this forum, that the amount of caffine in a cup of coffe is enough to keep you awake for 15 minutes only and people only stay awake longer than that because of the placebo - they think the coffee will keep the awake longer so the stay awake longer. I think that this is true in my case, but I also think the caffine stimulates the brain for much longer than 15 minutes. I have only had very few LDs and they were all short because I could not concentrate on the dream and I always forget that its a dream. One of them, which was very vivid was after drinking coffee before I went to bed. I'm sure the caffine either increased my recall or made the dream much more vivid than normal.
I tried drinking a can of coke last night straight before going to bed but I think that was too much caffine to close to sleeping. I tried WILD but I think I had to much caffine to get fully to sleep so I was kind of trapped between waking and sleeping for about 20 minutes. I did start to hear sounds alternating from ear to ear but whenever I heard these I just woke up too easily.

Jeff: You mentioned using earplugs. Do you think these could have had an effect on your dreaming. I imagine earplugs would shut you senses off from the real world more and maybe help you have a vivid or lucid dream. I think I will buy some and try...


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Mar, 2004  Reply with quote

Has anyone tried using caffine pills? The caffine uptake should be slower and easyer to get the right amount. So one should be able to go to sleep before the caffine gets into the blood or where ever it goes. And they are cheap.

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Apr, 2004  Reply with quote

Hello, my friend told me that last night he drank loads of Pepsi, not for any dream related reasons, and that it took him ages to get to sleep, obviously due to the caffine. He later had 3 LDs that night, and one of them was the best he has ever had in terms of clarity of experience. He is a natural LDer, but he generally only has a couple a week, and this was a new high for him. Just a bit of anecdotal evidence if anyone wants to try caffine before going to bed.

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