The BIG Déjà Vu topic

Yeah, I get Deja Vu a lot… Not as often as every other day, mind you-- Don’t think I’d be able to take that-- But often enough. I never get it in advance, as some people seem to, usually exactly when the event happens. It’s more like a feeling of, “I should have seen that coming! It’s happened before!”, whether it actually did or not.
As for “The nothingness”, as you put it, I think I may have experienced something similar to this. I sort of get a feeling of being someone else, outside my own body. I look at my reflection in the mirror (If there’s one available) and ask myself, "Is that really me? It’s really weird, and I don’t like it at all. :bored:

I heard deja vu is caused by a lack of sleep and this seems like the correct explination because whenever I get it, I haven’t had enough sleep or I’m tired.
The explination is that because your brain hasn’t had enough rest, your memory doesn’t work properly and gets confused so you will find it hard to distinguish between the present and memory, hence not being sure if you had done something before.
This could also explain Tripoe’s experiment - you might feel like you remember someone asking a question just before they ask it, so you think you predicted it. I’m not saying this is the case but I know I often get the feeling I could tell something was going to happen a second before it does but I think it’s just my mind tricking me afterward the event.

This is getting slightly more spiritual, but…

Perhaps Deja Vu is the result of a precognitive dream. The feeling you get of this having happened before could be when you remember the dream. Just an opinion…

I get Deja Vu a lot. I’ll just be sitting in class, and someone will walk a certain way, or say something, and I’ll think “I’ve heard that before…” Maybe in my dreams?

As for “the nothingness,” I have had similar experiences. I’ll also be sitting in class or something and just think for a split-second “How did I get here? Why am I here? Does this place even exist?” Then, it’ll all go back to normal.

Abyss

Try to run past memories in your mind’s eye of when the Deja Vu started happening, and also note other things you were going through at that point… Did you start growing spiritually, charging your crown and third eye chakras (whether you were aware or not at the time) … Let me actually tell you about my own experiences with Deja Vu, and what meaning I took from it…

I had Deja Vu abnormally often as a child. I would get it multiple times a week… and it got to the point where as soon as I would feel a Deja Vu episode I would start doing things like mumbling nonsense or rolling on the ground like a pencil… ANYTHING ridiculous to see if it still felt like I had experienced it before. After a while the Deja Vu subsided, around when I was about halfway through my Elementary schooling. (only happening once a month maybe)

Then around Sophmore year of High school, I started getting Deja Vu very seriously… I would get it every day, sometimes lasting a few minutes… (More on this later) This was around when I started to build self-awareness, lean away from depression, and concentrate more on healing my wounds. About a year into my new found path, I found myself building an affinity with Deja Vu… I could use my awareness as a catalyst to shift dimensions… I started to realize that Deja Vu was a state of mind, more ordinary than not (It will make sense, I promise :wink: )

By the time I was 18, I had become very in tune with my body, mind, and soul. I was no longer unconcious of my emotions and default programming… This also meant that I was very in tune with my current state of mind (what ever it may be at the time) and had a large library of mind states that I could choose from depending on the occasion. With the new information and ability I had piled, I attempted to fully disect the mind state of Deja Vu.

I started by embracing the feeling that Deja Vu suspends you in… The feeling that the moment you are in, has happened before… A deep seated familiarity to all the symbols that life is projecting to you, in the instant. I explored the feelings in as many different angles as I could.

Then I moved onto mapping my past experiences with Deja Vu… when was I shifting to that state of mind? When was I completely shut off from that state of mind? I mentioned earlier a basic summary of my past experience with Deja Vu… but let me add the important puzzle pieces that will settle the full painting in your canvas. (mind) :smile:

Deja Vu was a familiar dwelling for me during my early years of Elementary schooling… Until I was well into the routine, I had felt Deja Vu often, like tasting drops of magic here and there out of the usual dull normality. I don’t remember many mind states that I was in my early childhood before schooling, and I think that it’s because my will wasn’t broken by the dream of the planet yet… I was mostly floating in the timeless mind state of Deja Vu’s loving embrace. (More on this in a moment)

So after my routine in Elementary school had been established and I had been sufficiently programmed, I lost touch with Deja Vu… it happened rarely in comparison to how much I had felt it during the my integration into schooling. I felt Deja Vu was not as important during the next years through Elementary school and Middle school, although still baffled by it’s overwhelming feeling of connectedness.

Let’s take these events and fish some meaning from them now… before I start… let me throw this out. How would an individual know other stars existed if the sun never set?

Until I was “taught” the rules and morals of society and culture, “fed” the epidemic plague of fear and “raped” of my own authentic dreams, I lived in a constant state of Deja Vu. Of course there was no way for me to know that I was… how would I observe my own state of mind without another perspective(mind state) to observe from?

As my connected dream began to tear by the current world’s sickness, I began to water a new perspective… one of fear, doubt, anxiety, worry… I was thrown into a constant nightmare (no longer awake in my dream, or concious), where I acted out the role of the victim (deeply asleep, or unconcious)… This new mind state grew feverishly and fast! It’s selfish and eternal hungry nature drained me of life, squandering all true potential.

The tainted dream of the planet had excreted an veiled demon sperm that stealthily entered my womb and impregnated my soul. From there on there was a shift in where I was channeling my energy and awareness. This guised demon was growing and I was identified with it. Blindly, I became the demon, continually feeding the only existance I knew. The new mind state, this demon, this nightmare, had done 2 things. It had trapped me in hell, throwing me out of heaven (out of Deja Vu)… but it also gave me a new perspective to observe from.

This is where everything falls together. So going back, the reason I experienced Deja Vu so much during my early Elementary school days, is because that was when the shift of mind states occured. Now the shifting doesn’t happen instantly… there are many factors involved… how heavily the individual is programmed is the most significant though.

So during the course of the shift in realities… there comes a point in the process where the individual reaches the balanced point… I was at a point when I would be either worry-free… or very afraid… That was the balanced half point. Once the balance tipped towards suffering, the dream changed to nightmare… and I fell deeper into the depths of burning agony…

As soon as the balance was in favor of the demon, that became my “default” state of mind… since it was more than half, it was majority… During that point was when I felt a barrage of Deja Vu. It was the first time my base perspective was not relaxed in the state of Deja Vu. Therefore when I would fall into that void of deep-understanding, I would really be “falling” out of hell and into heaven. The fluctuations would occur frequently and since the 2 mind states are completely opposite polarities, that explained its nature to be so sudden and bone-rattling. I would pierce through the illusion of time. And that explains what Deja Vu is.

Deja Vu is piercing through the illusion of time. It is a mind state in which time doesn’t exist. Without time, there can be no labels or egoic judgments and opinions. Without time, there is only the moment. And when one is in a deep state of Deja Vu, they tap into the source… granting them powers beyond the singular existance. That is why everything feels so familiar, like you’ve been there and/or done that before. All the symbols and patterns life delivers to you feel overwhelmingly resonant… as if you are vibrating with the entire spectrum of existance. The base foundation of my experience is understood when you realize that Deja Vu IS a mind state. And one that is VERY normal, therefore shockingly familiar. That’s why no matter where you are, what you’re doing, what you’re seeing or hearing, you will feel a connection that is simply indescribable with words. The mind cannot grasp it, you cannot embrace it through the eyes of the demon. Deja Vu is being connected, being whole, it is simply Being.

There are different levels of Deja Vu… different frequencies if you will… and so there are many different varying colors of Deja Vu. If you ever catch yourself thinking to yourself, “This feels like a dream…” That’s one of the colors. The most familiar level is the most obvious and mind blowing… and that’s the only color that most people will even note as Deja Vu until they truly understand what it is. (Including me) That also explains the chapters in my life where Deja Vu was so distant…

So let me act as a thesauras real quick and use other labels that describe the same thing.

Lucidity, Being, Heaven, Meditation, Expression, It, God, Presence, Oneness, etc etc…

The whole expanse of teachings, peoples, cultures, societies, religions, regions all have words or ideas that express what Deja Vu is… All humans share that same feeling… Just like we share the stillness of the deep ocean depths, underneath the turbulent, violent surface of noise and differences. If you identify yourself solely with the surface… you seperate yourself from stillness, and in turn Deja Vu. So with your free-will, your concious choice…

…Choose heaven…

…Choose the deep sea…

…Choose Deja Vu…

…Choose…

DeyBwah

Me to, I have Deja Vu a couple of times every week. It realy freaks me out.

@ DeyBwah: That’s some beautiful metaphorical language (as usual :smile: ) to describe the process of the development your true potential! The way you describe it, Deja Vus are more like subtle mystical experiences, satori, where one experiences Being in a flash. Very interesting way to interprete the phenomenon… It fits perfectly :smile:

Mystic…

You and I seem to share a similar outlook on life :cool:

Deja Vu’s are like subtle mystical experiences! I think the label “Deja Vu” closed my mind to some degree, I would just think of the word or hear it in my head rather than think or feel what it really is…

DeyBwah

interesting theory DeyBwah, just remember to accept all possibilities…
i’m sure you do already, but it just read a little overconvinced

i have a theory it could be precog that occurs a fraction of a second before or during the event…
some possible evidence:
in most cases it’s more a feeling involving all senses (or maybe a 6th only?) rather than a visual/with thoughts? experience ie. actually remembering

sometimes there is the feeling that you thought about it happening a long time before the event (days for example)
but you can’t (usually) pinpoint when you actually thought about it
even though the feeling seems so sure

finally, the way you can continue the dejavu sometimes by remaining in the (state of mind?)
ie. when you have dejavu, tell someone straight away, have dejavu that you told them…etc
it seems you can keep it coming which could mean you’ve found a precog state and are holding onto it for a bit…

your thoughts?

ve been experiencing dejavues since i was little.
however did something change over time. when i was a kid i thought
‘i saw this before’. when i grew older it started to occur like ‘i know
that i was like this before thinking i saw this before’ [on the double- get it?]
and it has increased ever since until i felt like my mind was
looking into the infinite variations of existence.
… and now… when i have a dejavue its like… being one. like a child.
with the awareness that everything is the way it is because it is the way it is.

oh. what i think dejavues are? i dont know.
could be that you experience two [or lots more ;P] timelines / dimensions at the same time.
or that they merge. or that memories from past incarnations arise.
existence is infinite , so everything you do exists in infinite different variations
and infinitly the same as well…

for me, when something out of a dream reoccurs in the awake its actualy a different
feeling to a dejavue.
[this is actually just a copy of what i wrote over at the astralsociety
on this topic]
salaam.

I really like this topic!

When I was younger, I had more dejavus, today the last time really has happened months ago. What is interesting, is that I have had many dejavus that were ‘the same’. For example, when I was a young boy, and I played football, many times it happend that the ball would pass me in a certain way, which immediately induced a deja vu. That happened many times, every time in the exact same way!

It is really a strong feeling, almost like you are entering a whole new universe, in which the deja vu event is like happening all the time without a pause! When I have a strong deja vu, I really feel like being warped into some place where like time doesn’t exist or something.

i heard that deja vu was caused by a slight delay in sensory perception

i.e some of your senses react a fraction of a second slower causing your brain to think that you have done it before when actually it all happened at the point you experienced it

personally, i think this is the best explanation i have heard for it anyways

Strange… If so, what explains having deja vu’s in dreams?

I don’t find them scary… Quite on the contrary, I long for them…
There are no words to describe that brief mindless state…

Now feeling that constantly…wow

heaven

your minds re-creation of it.

my friend once explained to my why u have DeJa Vu, i think he said he learned it it one of his advanced science classes…anyway…what he said is that for some reason the electrical signal from your eyes somehow goes through your part of the brain that is memory before it goes to the part that interpets the signal into what you see…so, when you see it, you think that your remembering seeing it, when it really has just gone through your memory first…i think it sounds like a very reasonable explination although i’m not sure if it is true or not.

Ive been having loads of Deja vu lately, its really strange, but amazing, and I like getting it, because, I dont know really…
I had Deja-vu today strangely enough…

Yeah I do… but usually if I felt like something has had happened, it already has… I don’t have big problems wondering if it was a dream memory or something made up… etc.

For me movies really tend to do it… like… I saw the Matrix Revolutions, and … upon leaving the theater I was like I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THAT ENDING BATTLE BEFORE

it felt like I had a LD in which I simply asked to see the ending of the movie or something… but what I don’t know, is if that memory is just completely made up or not.

But my deja vu is always delayed, yes… which could mean I/we have problems in the way our memories are stored… could be from erratic sleep cycles.

oh and this topic gave me deja vu too… becuase i know I just said this exact same thing that I said right now in another deja vu thread a few days ago… but the topic started didn’t seem to have the delayed deja vu that I do.

however it’s ironic that your post would have been kind of similar to my remembered post, wherever it is.

The matrix has us.

absolutely… dissociation… it’s usually when something bad happens to me and I feel like I could wake up… or … just in awkward social situations… like when I went over to my grandparents once and felt like I must have been tripping like crazy (not that i’ve ever had a drug induced trip though)… or like… sometimes in the store…

So I think being with other people triggers it. Sometimes I really do almost believe I’m dreaming but can’t wake up… or are on the verge of waking up but are afraid to.

Yes, that sounds like the most feasable scientific explanation for a deja-vu…

on the other hand, how conclusive are the studies regarding this? Is it scientific fact that ALL deja-vu’s are a ‘malfunction’ in the brains circuitry?

I have had some deja-vu’s where I had done something similair in a dream, maybe the ‘physical’ actions weren’t exactly the same but the ‘vibe’, the ‘feeling’ of the moment was the same. (hard to explain sorry)

I always say, ‘I already did this in a dream’, it’s kind of different than a deja vu though, because I really find it hard to believe that I didn’t actually dream it. :bored:

for a long time i have known what deja vu meant in my own mannor, feeling like you experienced a moment before or a feeling of familiarity of a moment in time that “you have been there before” etc. well ive never known why it happens or any other slightly logical meaning to it. why it happens, how it happens, etc. i just know that i get em alot at varying strenghts. so far, my strongest deja vu moment was during this past summer while lifeguarding at a pool. i was emptying trash from a trash can then it hit me “i been here before”. right then and there, like it was a memory that i could remember, i knew that another lifeguard was going to come and ask me a question about something. so i turn around and there the is, the other lifeguard. she says “i got a question for you…(says question that i already knew what it was)”. i didnt want to say “yea i already know what ur gonna say and (response to her question)”, or tell her the answer to her question before she asked it, cuz that would freak her out. another moment in the past week when i had deja vu, i could almost pinpoint when i first had the unknowledgable “foresight” of this moment, which was in the spring of last year. all this was a bit hard to describe, my experiences, but i tried. anyone give any statements about deja vu or whatever?

deja vu about this topic :wink: merged you into the already existing deja vu topic :smile: