First Steps to WILD part VI (Basic WILD Q&A)

so I’ve never really tried a WILD before, but I believe I have the potential to do so.

last night in bed, I began having HI and saw several different dreamscapes, but I was drifting into unconscious, so I wasn’t really lucid, but then maybe 30 seconds later I would realize I could see these places and was dreaming, but then it would all just stop, the voices, the images, everything. But it wasn’t like I was excited and freaked out and that’s what caused them to disappear, it was just becoming aware of them that did it, unlike my DILD’s, where I become aware and they are still there.

so my question is, if this is the right material to do a WILD with, how do I remain conscious without having them disappear so fast? how can I slip into the WILD?

Hi anyone.
I Found out about LDs about a half Year ago.
I tried a Little but tuen Quit, but yesterday i read an ebook again and
Tried WILD. I Started relaxing with “progressive Relaxing” and then
Used “inversed blinking” too get further. I felt my face muscles getting
“tired” so my face kinda freezed. After a while, I quitter the try because
I couldnt remember what to do next, also I got very excited :razz:

Today I did the same way but waited longer, at the end my right hand
Suddenly got really really numb. It Crawled up my arm and As it reached my elbow,
The Feeling Started in my left fingers too. It felt like I “overbent” my arm and it could break in next to no time. After like 1.30 minutes I canceled it (don’t know whY :sad: ) and posted this.
I am gonna wait 15 minutes for responses and try again then.

Pls write if you got proposals on how to do better or anythIng else.

S0lll0s

JJdreamer and S0lll0s, when are you trying to WILD? I don’t recall seeing anything about when you’re doing it in your posts. One big thing that helps a lot is if you do it 5-6 hours after first going to sleep since generally you’ll fall asleep much faster. This will help with getting through the weird numbing sensations and the HI will usually become a full dream a bit faster. The other thing to keep in mind is that you should not pay too much attention to what is happening to your body or the HI you are seeing. The main thing you need to do is be passively aware all the while repeating to yourself that you are dreaming. Remember, you have to fall asleep to dream, and you’ll never do that while you’re busy thinking about how numb you are.

my experience described above happened about 15 minutes after going to bed (about when I start to fall asleep), and I often get these HI’s when I’m really tired. I haven’t tried waking up 5-6 hours later though.

In that case I really would consider trying it; I know it’s helped me a lot. You don’t really have to do a full WBTB if you don’t have the time/will to stay up, buy it’s a good idea to play with different lengths of time to see what helps the most. Good luck!

Just tried to WILD outside on my lunchbreak in the park by my work. As usual, I wasn’t successful (have only ever achieved 2, but give it a try every now and again, just for fun) but got to the SP, with some flashing lights and my eyes starting to rapidly flutter. I would have kept going but I heard my watch beep and knew I should be getting back to work!

Anyway, it’s been 10 mins and I still feel all weird, like my head fully hasn’t returned, and electrical tingles are still shooting around my body, and I feel this massively calm mellowness Comment removed. Please read the guidelines. :mattias: Feels good man :cool:

Am enjoying this relaxed sensation, but just hope it’s not a permanent state haha! :eek:

edit: Oops, sorry bout that reference! I should have read the guidelines first :sadyes:

I always fall asleep when I’m trying WILD. I count my breathes, I try to visualize stairs to count, and I’ve listened to theta beats while falling asleep but nothing works. What else can be done to help WILD work for me?

if you’re just starting out with lucid dreaming, WILDing might be a little challenging, because first you need to raise your self awareness, by keeping a dream journal, doing reality checks, etc.

over time you will have a greater self awareness, which will help you with WILD’s. I’ve been doing this for a year and I still can’t WILD, but hey everyone’s different, so it might be easier for you :content:

good luck!

The point rather is to fall asleep, no? :tongue: Okay, enough of me acting smart, and onto your problem. I’d advise not starting with WILD. It is not an easy technique for most, and definitely not for beginners. Also, it’s nearly impossible at bedtime when you first fall asleep. It’s best done in conjunction with a WBTB.

I’d recommend using MILD and WBTB as you start. It’s a lot easier, and we wouldn’t have techniques posted and talked about in our guides here if they don’t help you LD. :wink: As with any technique, not a lot is set in stone as to what will help you personally LD.

Using DEILDs is easier than WILD, but I’d still advise waiting a while until you’re a bit more experienced with LDs until using it. DEILD is pretty much the same process as WILD, except if you wake up, you don’t move, and then stay aware while falling asleep back into the dream.

Hello Everyone! :woo:
The last couple of days I have been trying to perform WILD while falling asleep at night. I have been getting some positive results like my hypnagogic hallucinations have been getting more and more vivid every night that I do it. But i was just wondering how long it usually takes you guys to fall into your dreams with this technique?
Thanks!!

If you do it at the beginning of the night it could take 45 minutes to an hour or longer. If you do it later, like 5-6 hours after first going to sleep it can be a matter of minutes. You could do a full WBTB, but I usually just take enough time to write in my DJ (if that long) and go back to bed.

Thanks and one more question. Does SP also have some kind of numbness feeling to it. Last night I noticed that i couldn’t really feel a number of body parts like my hands
Thanks!!!

People will give various different accounts of what SP feels like. Every time I’ve experienced it I have literally felt like something was keeping me from moving rather than just a random numbness. But one word of warning: SP is not necessary to have a WILD. It can be helpful, for sure, but so many people get caught up trying to induce SP that they forget their overall goal of becoming lucid. Remember, the point of WILD is to forget your body, so if you spend all of your time going “I feel numb, is this SP? How about now? Now?” then your chances go waaay down.

“WILD appeals to me because I enjoy seeing things evolve and progress over time” :smile:

I just reach the SP part of the WILD technique and totally lost concentration. I’ve been training with WILD four days ago, so I guess this was a really good attempt, I also noticed that I had a bit of trouble with the HH they were really fast, and before I knew I was focusing in how agitated my breathing sounded.

I will keep trying cause I think that if you can go trough the whole WILD process then you can gain way more control in a LD than doing it the DILD way. Also right now doing some WBTB and I’m planing to combine it with WILD, I’ve never tried it before, hope it works :^)

I never had HI so I really wondered about this:
[community.ld4all.com/t/s0lll0s-dream-journal-diary-nd-fld-future-ld/34918/9) (last dream)
Also I haven’t got any HI until now too, Why?

You mentioned that in your other WILD attempts you were too focused on your body, that could be part of it. Also, HI is really only a dream forming, so it may be that you had mostly fallen into deep sleep before where there was no dream or you simply didn’t notice/remember.

I know I’ve had a few times where I begin experiencing HI and then something disturbs me. Within a few moments I forget what the HI was, and only know that it happened because I was thinking about it.

Hey guys, in the past I’ve tried WILD when going to sleep a couple of times but never got very far and didn’t see any HI. Well, 2 days ago I somehow managed to go into a full state of HI without even intending to, and without needing to relax my body for ages beforehand. I was lying in my bed trying to get to sleep at about 11am after having been repeatedly woken up by my alarm and falling back to sleep for the last few hours. I closed my eyes for maybe a minute and then started drifting to sleep, and for some reason I thought I was lying on my floor. Then all of a sudden, like a wave crashing over me I saw gray static and heard strange noises, and felt as though I was out of my body. I realized what was happening so I tried to visualize a dream space to enter and then the HI faded away after 10 seconds, and that was it.

But then yesterday I managed to do it again. It was also in the morning when I was trying to get back to sleep, and I thought I’d try imagining I was on my floor and see if it would trigger it again. To my surprise it worked, and the same thing happened with about 10 seconds of HI and strange noises which then faded away.

So my question is, what can I do to stop it ending so quickly and what should I do to enter the dream once I get into that state?

Hey there and welcome :wave:

HI can be really sensitive, specially in the beginning. You should try to just relax and stay aware. Just passively observe it for a while. after a while it should get a little more stable. You might hear some sounds and see some more detailed images… or not. Try to look at it in a more exploratory way, instead of focusing too much on what you would want to see and about entering the dream right away. They key is remaining aware as the dream forms itself.

When I get HI, right at the start, if I even “notice it too much” it goes away. If I’m able to let it evolve a little I can pay some more attention, but if I move my eyes (or “dream eyes”) to look at specific parts of it, it will go away. Then I’m able to look around gently, but that’s it. Anyway, this all depends on so many things too. Some people don’t even get HI… ever. And that’s ok.

I never got so far I slept, I always gave up after like 5minutes because inverses blinking showed me I amn’t tired enough anymore (could move my eyelids easily again). Shall I just wait and try to not concentrate on anything?