I did avalinah 
I feel bad for you waking up that early! Is there a possibility you can go to bed an hour earlier? Or is that really too soon for you? Or maybe earplugs? 
@Huse, same as avalinah said and I think that when you reached SP you shouldn’t focus on your body, like don’t do anything with your meridians and energy because if you do, you get poundings and feeling like you’re boiling and such all not so nice feelings. You shouldn’t feel your body yet you are still aware of it.
hehe i knew it why did you change it? i didn’t even know one could change it 
anyways, earplugs would be nice, but then i’m afraid i wouldn’t be able to wake up at all xD or maybe… if a disaster struck… and i slept through it… haha.
i don’t think i can go to bed earlier, since i go to sleep at 23. although when i get a job, i might have to. getting up early bites 
i did almost succeed at chaining today though, but not WILD. i woke up many times, also at 5 am, so i had no other choice but to try, but WILD at night… i can’t do it something’s different, and i can’t do my whole ‘relax myself and go to SP’ part. Chaining almost worked though 
i was seeing pictures in front of me, but i think i moved too much and then they all faded. i possibly need more practice almost got lucid tonight anyway. did multiple RCs, but i did them all on the verge of already waking up, ended up doing them in bed while i still though i was in a dream. wonder why is that, that’s really weird. but oh well, some progress at least.
I have read somewhere that it is possible, but I can’t remember where. It will be difficult, since you get better REM cycles later in the night, but it is still possible, if more difficult. You might also try it during a nap on a day you have free.
tried it during the day, but usually there is not enough time for that. and i’m not sleepy enough.
during the night should be easier, but for me it’s somehow harder! i don’t get this. wonder why…
It is harder during the early night because REM isn’t as close as later on in the night. It is probably the same with naps as well. I wish I could find the post I read before about it. I would say find a technique and stick with it, though. See if it works for you. Maybe try some meditation as well, as that may help you out.
well, i do reach SP (but not with WBTB… my body keeps yelling at me for not letting it just sleep properly)… but i never get HI, it’s just black. and it’s been worse deeper into the night (like with WBTB). i think i’m too aware.
i learned to get to SP in a matter of minutes through meditation, actually. it’s just that my mind never bothers to form any images or go anywhere with it. i’ve had a successful WILD… only in a dream (i actually did WILD in a dream… talk about lol…)
Have you tried rolling out of your body after you hit SP completely? Once you hit SP you’re usually nearly there. Also, have you tried doing a RC to make sure you are actually still awake and not sleep-WILDing? 
Well, this should be huge! Do you happen to be too worried or expecting images to form? Maybe if you simply try visualizing you are meditating, with your eyes closed, somewhere else (some where dreamy!) Whenever I get into SP and don’t get HI (I tend to get one or the other…) I usually try to clear my mind and imagine I’m touching something. The sense of touch comes in a lot easier than the visuals.
The trouble with WILD at night, as I’m sure has been mentioned is that you take a long time to enter REM sleep. But, if I’m not mistaken, WritersCube WILD’s at night. In fact I remember him saying it only takes him 5 minutes to enter a LD. So… shrugs
I know he’s been LD’ing for 20+ years and he could probably enter a LD while fully awake too XD point is that it is possible. [size=59]Just don’t expect too much in case it takes 20 years to learn! 
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Yes, it’s possible, I succeeded on 3 WILDs from wide awake.
The secret is just being patient, AND optionally, using some techniques to quicken it.
well that’s great then. if it’s technically possible, then it gives me more hope.
patience is not the trick. rather, not the only thing. i could lay there patiently all night, and nothing would happen. i used to do it for hours. there’s something else that’s missing.
i’ve actually tried imagining or meditating or something, but i can’t see the images well (i used to be good at imagining things when i was younger, but at some point i started really sucking at it the darkness overcomes all… i just can’t see anything when i try… or it’s too vague…). anyway, even after 30 minutes nothing would come up on its own. i must be too aware if i’m imagining things. it felt to me like it was chasing the sleep away even.
but others succeed without HI too, so it’s not like it’s a must.
HI isn’t a must for me. Sometimes I have the same difficulty as you and I think it is because I’m too tense then. Because if I give up, the HI appears in just a few minutes and then when I realize it’s there and I really focus on it instead of just letting it be there I get tense again and it fades away.
The first wild I ever had happened two minutes after turning off the tv for bed. I fell asleep at ten after king of the hill and then woke up from the wild at ten nine.
Of course WILD does work in the evening - you only have to create the potential situation. I, for example, if I go for a WILD I only try it at night, before going to bed. This is because, if I wake up in the middle of the night by alarm, my sleeping cycle gets messed up so badly that I won’t be able to walk on my feet the next day.
There is one important fact you need to take in account: Exhaustion. (Being tired after a long day makes falling asleep a lot easier: it relaxes your muscles and pushes you into your dreamland quicker, as your mind wants to ‘shut down’ asap for recovery.)
Once you have that it’s all a matter of timing: Set a certain interval for you to become conscious of your surroundings and yourself. In the meantime let yourself drift away in thoughts.
The answer to your topic question is yes. However, I wouldn’t recommend WILD, as it is hard. Go for a DEILD. Remember: everything has to be natural. Don’t force anything and you will succeed.
Cheers
According to this, you have to sleep 2 hours to get to REM… WILD seems to be way too hard.
Correction - WILD in the evening is hard. WILD after 4.5-6 hours is much easier and more fun.
I don’t think you have to be in rem to dream. It only seems harder in the evening because it is harder for your mind and body to go into sleep. I don’t think it’s entirely the wait for rem that makes it hard, but instead a lot to do with taking a long time to fall asleep. When I wild in the evening it’s mega easy, but all of my wilds seem to come by accident so who knows haha just my thoughts 
We certainly have non-REM dreams. Apparently, they also happen mostly in the morning.
I’ve never had a WILD at night (meaning, I’ve never had a WILD where I lie down for bed at night and pass straight from the waking state into a lucid dream). I have, however, fallen asleep and found myself suddenly conscious in SP with HI, or in an OBE, long before my brain would be in REM sleep (that is, 30-45 minutes after falling asleep).
Ah, ive gone to sleep at night and the next thing i know I’m in the “black abyss of nothing” with no body, nothing. Haha that’s usually how sp is for me when I “awaken” in it after falling asleep.
There are some cases when we dream during NREM, however, they are rare. Also they are more like hallucinations, rather than vivid REM-like dreams. There is some difference. Also when dreaming during NREM, there is a chance of sleep-walking and sleep-talking, since SP is not active during NREM.
What are the chances or conditions needed for someone to go directly into rem sleep in the evening?