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| Confused about WILD |
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This morning, like usual, I fell asleep while trying to WILD. But as soon as the dream started, rather than later on as with RCILDs, I kind of remembered trying to WILD and realized I was dreaming and had a short lucid dream.
So now I'm wondering, is WILD supposed to be like that? Just keeping aware ENOUGH so that you keep some of that awareness once you fall asleep?
Or is it passing straight from awake to a lucid dream, having those hallucinations, visualizations and whatnot?
Or is it both?
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| Posted: Sat 08 Oct, 2011 |
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I believe that it is both. WILD and MILD and the rest are all very broad terms to class what their definitions are. I think that WILD works different for everyone, and what you believe WILD is, it is for you. Don't stress too much about the method, but congrats on the LD 
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| Posted: Sat 08 Oct, 2011 |
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Thanks. I guess I'll have to see if I can get this technique to work consistently, since MILD doesn't work on me and RCILD is too erratic. It's the third LD in which I've spent the whole time messing around trying to get that Dream Clock technique working only to wake up trying to get the numbers perfect. I suck at creating things.
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| Posted: Sat 08 Oct, 2011 |
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That's how it usually works for me, I usually lose my way as I drift off but remember what I was trying to do when the dream starts.
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| Posted: Sun 13 Nov, 2011 |
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So now I'm wondering, is WILD supposed to be like that? Just keeping aware ENOUGH so that you keep some of that awareness once you fall asleep? |
Yes. I mean, to start dreaming you need to fall asleep at some time, right? You need to keep awareness to the point where you would usually just fall asleep or become more awake. I usually recognize this by vibrations and later that transition from waking state to dream state lasts only a sec or at least it feels like a second...
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Or is it passing straight from awake to a lucid dream, having those hallucinations, visualizations and whatnot? |
Like I said, I believe you can't just be awake and and then in LD without falling asleep. Hallucinations and visualizations are just hypnagogic Hallucinations that are happening just before lucid dream, sometimes you may experience them and sometimes you won't...
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| Posted: Thu 24 Nov, 2011 |
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Like I said, I believe you can't just be awake and and then in LD without falling asleep. Hallucinations and visualizations are just hypnagogic Hallucinations that are happening just before lucid dream, sometimes you may experience them and sometimes you won't... |
Actually... you can!  well... technically, you're 'asleep' when you are lucid dreaming. But you don't have to go through any hallucinations and that 'falling asleep phase' isn't necessary for some (me  )
Like this: wake up like you normally would, decide to sleep in, close eyes and lie still in any position you like, feel relaxation, look up to third eye and get up and walk away hehe All this is just a minute to a few minutes time while being completely aware from start till lucid!
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| Posted: Thu 24 Nov, 2011 |
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Like I said, I believe you can't just be awake and and then in LD without falling asleep. Hallucinations and visualizations are just hypnagogic Hallucinations that are happening just before lucid dream, sometimes you may experience them and sometimes you won't... |
Actually... you can! well... technically, you're 'asleep' when you are lucid dreaming. But you don't have to go through any hallucinations and that 'falling asleep phase' isn't necessary for some (me )
Like this: wake up like you normally would, decide to sleep in, close eyes and lie still in any position you like, feel relaxation, look up to third eye and get up and walk away hehe All this is just a minute to a few minutes time while being completely aware from start till lucid! |
Yeah, but I meant about the dream state. You can't dream if you're not asleep[theoretically]. Eventually you must fall asleep in order to have a dream, you may skip falling asleep part but you can't dream in waking state! [I mean on actual dream, not dreaming like daydreaming  ]
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| Posted: Thu 24 Nov, 2011 |
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Like I said, I believe you can't just be awake and and then in LD without falling asleep. Hallucinations and visualizations are just hypnagogic Hallucinations that are happening just before lucid dream, sometimes you may experience them and sometimes you won't... |
Actually... you can! well... technically, you're 'asleep' when you are lucid dreaming. But you don't have to go through any hallucinations and that 'falling asleep phase' isn't necessary for some (me )
Like this: wake up like you normally would, decide to sleep in, close eyes and lie still in any position you like, feel relaxation, look up to third eye and get up and walk away hehe All this is just a minute to a few minutes time while being completely aware from start till lucid! |
Yeah, but I meant about the dream state. You can't dream if you're not asleep[theoretically]. Eventually you must fall asleep in order to have a dream, you may skip falling asleep part but you can't dream in waking state! [I mean on actual dream, not dreaming like daydreaming ] |
Haha true true
But, what about people who enter a lucid state through meditation?
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| Posted: Thu 24 Nov, 2011 |
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Like I said, I believe you can't just be awake and and then in LD without falling asleep. Hallucinations and visualizations are just hypnagogic Hallucinations that are happening just before lucid dream, sometimes you may experience them and sometimes you won't... |
Actually... you can! well... technically, you're 'asleep' when you are lucid dreaming. But you don't have to go through any hallucinations and that 'falling asleep phase' isn't necessary for some (me )
Like this: wake up like you normally would, decide to sleep in, close eyes and lie still in any position you like, feel relaxation, look up to third eye and get up and walk away hehe All this is just a minute to a few minutes time while being completely aware from start till lucid! |
Yeah, but I meant about the dream state. You can't dream if you're not asleep[theoretically]. Eventually you must fall asleep in order to have a dream, you may skip falling asleep part but you can't dream in waking state! [I mean on actual dream, not dreaming like daydreaming ] |
Haha true true
But, what about people who enter a lucid state through meditation? |
I don't know about that one... Never experienced it... Who knows, maybe they fall asleep too, we should asked some experienced in meditation! 
Current LD goal(s): #Find/Meet Dream Guide#
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| Posted: Thu 24 Nov, 2011 |
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[quote= "dB_FTS"]
Like I said, I believe you can't just be awake and and then in LD without falling asleep. Hallucinations and visualizations are just hypnagogic Hallucinations that are happening just before lucid dream, sometimes you may experience them and sometimes you won't... |
Actually... you can! well... technically, you're 'asleep' when you are lucid dreaming. But you don't have to go through any hallucinations and that 'falling asleep phase' isn't necessary for some (me )
Like this: wake up like you normally would, decide to sleep in, close eyes and lie still in any position you like, feel relaxation, look up to third eye and get up and walk away hehe All this is just a minute to a few minutes time while being completely aware from start till lucid! |
Yeah, but I meant about the dream state. You can't dream if you're not asleep[theoretically]. Eventually you must fall asleep in order to have a dream, you may skip falling asleep part but you can't dream in waking state! [I mean on actual dream, not dreaming like daydreaming ] |
Haha true true
But, what about people who enter a lucid state through meditation? |
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I don't know about that one... Never experienced it... Who knows, maybe they fall asleep too, we should asked some experienced in meditation! |
*come out come out wherever you are...*
none found 
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| Posted: Thu 24 Nov, 2011 |
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[quote= "Bird"][quote= "dB_FTS"]
Like I said, I believe you can't just be awake and and then in LD without falling asleep. Hallucinations and visualizations are just hypnagogic Hallucinations that are happening just before lucid dream, sometimes you may experience them and sometimes you won't... |
Actually... you can! well... technically, you're 'asleep' when you are lucid dreaming. But you don't have to go through any hallucinations and that 'falling asleep phase' isn't necessary for some (me )
Like this: wake up like you normally would, decide to sleep in, close eyes and lie still in any position you like, feel relaxation, look up to third eye and get up and walk away hehe All this is just a minute to a few minutes time while being completely aware from start till lucid! |
Yeah, but I meant about the dream state. You can't dream if you're not asleep[theoretically]. Eventually you must fall asleep in order to have a dream, you may skip falling asleep part but you can't dream in waking state! [I mean on actual dream, not dreaming like daydreaming ] |
Haha true true
But, what about people who enter a lucid state through meditation? |
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I don't know about that one... Never experienced it... Who knows, maybe they fall asleep too, we should asked some experienced in meditation! |
| Bird wrote: |
*come out come out wherever you are...*
none found |
There most be someone enough experienced in this but he is hiding! 
Current LD goal(s): #Find/Meet Dream Guide#
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