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Well I'm one of those people who has never"viewed" or "imagined" anything other than dreams its more like when I try to I am like thinking about viewing myself thinking to visualize something... it makes me mad... but if I can perform what you are saying I will be very happy! Thank you for posting this a lot of new information and great tips thanks
Current LD goal(s): MOAR LD
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| Posted: Sat 29 Oct, 2011 |
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One time i was "watching" these hypnogogic imagery, and it was like a 90's cartoon, there was a cartoon girl dancing, and i saw titles. I never saw any kind of text in hypnagogic images, and that was very interesting, but when i zoomed to this titles they were not some words, but rather different shapes. I was disappointed. (
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| Posted: Sun 30 Oct, 2011 |
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Great Post! I will try to pay more attention to the images!
Current LD goal(s): Discovering the possibility of Dream Within a Dream!
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Thanks so much for setting this all down in detail. In my years of scattered and often aborted LDs and OBEs the appearance and recognition of phosphenes has always been one of the primary markers that I am about to enter into a lucid WILD experience. Until your article, I had never heard of phosphenes and had never analyzed exactly how important they are. The last two nights, I had two experiences where the phosphenes were definitely present just before and while entering into SP. One OBE lasted for 25 WPR minutes in total stability.
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| Posted: Thu 29 Mar, 2012 |
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wow, so THATS what those swirling colors are! ever since i was little i have seen swirling colors whenever i close my eyes just like this and even with my eyes open in the dark, but oddly enough i to this day this still happens, even with my eyes open i can see it if its dark....weird.
its actually very intense and colorful for me, and my hypnagogic imagery is almost always in color. ever since i was little i have experienced seeing hypnagogic imagery and phosphenes easily, i used to stay awake for a while each night just staring at the phosphenes because it was so interesting, when i did this a few nights ago i had a lucid dream that night (probably just coincidence though) anyways i might just try zooming in on the phosphenes like you say to do, even if i don't do a WILD it should still be interesting.
thanks for posting this, finally i have a name for what i have been seeing 
Current LD goal(s): fly higher above the clouds.
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What a great topic! I was trying to explain these stages to my friend and had no success. These images perfectly describe my experiences in hypnagogic imagery. Particularly my efforts to achieve WILD. The last image I have no experience with, however I've gone into a lucid dream after "zooming in" on what you call a phosphene. It's really interesting
I like to think of it as a hypnagogic halucination. I usually reserve the word phosphene for other types of imagery, but I'll think on this usage of phosphene. I think it may be the correct usage.
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| Posted: Thu 12 Apr, 2012 |
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Well I'm one of those people who has never"viewed" or "imagined" anything other than dreams its more like when I try to I am like thinking about viewing myself thinking to visualize something... it makes me mad... but if I can perform what you are saying I will be very happy! Thank you for posting this a lot of new information and great tips thanks |
The thinking about viewing yourself is very similar to feeling a state of anxiety. You should try to calm yourself a little more. When you think of yourself objectively rather than as a subject you tend to think mechanically rather than creatively. Specifically this type of anxious thinking makes it extremely difficult to experience imagery. You need to relax and throw away your expectations.
At first, try to stop thinking; there's a certain amount of inhibition that has to occur in your critical thinking skills. Eventually you'll find the right balance of thinking and "seeing" that will enable you to better control yourself.
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| Posted: Thu 12 Apr, 2012 |
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Lol I have to say, I always try and chase my phosphenes im like GET OVER HERE YOU DIRTY VISION because I can never 'focus' on it so Im just trying to chase it and its so fun ;u; I'll try your technique, this is really cool
Current LD goal(s): Build my very own palace :3 Be able to explore it in my LD
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