Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD) Part II

I’d say all of the above, item number 3 in particular, LOL. The other things I’d recommend:

  1. Find a switch on the wall and turn on the light. Granted, the light may not get turned on, but “something” will. We discovered this neat trick through a lot of experiments conducted on our forum. When you flip the light switch, some part of your dream always gets turned on, be it the room, the other rooms, or some place outside. For example, we have seen night turns day, stars coming out, street lamps turned on, and even lightnings that correspond to each flip of the switch! After you do this, your dreamscape will become bright and stable.

  2. Imagine a cliff behind you and step backward to fall into it. This is a very fast and effective way to change the dream scene.

  3. Turn on your mobile phone and use that to light up the place… no I’m not kidding.

  4. Grab and examine some objects closely. This works well on restoring your visions. Very handy for those dreadful instances when you experience a total blackout.

Hope this helps. :smile:

Excellent advice as usual! Many thanks. I will try all of the above.

And that idea with the cliff sounds universally useful for all kinds of situations! That goes on my official “to do” list.

Very interesting technique !

I am not very good at LD but tried it yesterday with immediate success ! looks promising.

My lucidity was low though and the recall is poor enough.

Gone to bed at 11pm woke up at 4.30am (no alarm, I often wake up during the night). I did stay awake like 5 minutes before doing the cycles like 4 or 5 times. Then I turn back to my favorite sleeping position, felt asleep and had 3 FAs, which I believe is quite a lot. I Managed to do RC on each one which made me becomes lucid. Unfortunatly, as said before the recall is not very high, and the lucidity seemed very poor compared to WILD.

Will try it tonight as well and see if the success rate is that high (look promising by seeing all reports on this forums as well as others !)

edit: I was about to forgot, some people reported nightmares which I experienced too using SSILD. Do you guys think it’s related ?

Regards,
Alexkid

I’ve done this technique before I even knew it existed! The spontaneous lucidity it gives you in dreams is kind of bizarre… for some reason it makes you more rational during your dreams, leading to a greater chance of realizing you are dreaming. I haven’t done this technique for about a year, but I guess I will start doing it again. For me, the technique worked best when I went to bed at 10 PM, woke up at 4 AM, and then went back to sleep.

Note to self: SSILD is awesome. :razz:

I went to bed at 00:20 and woke up at 3:15 (puppy crying). When I went back to bed I tried SSILD and I have to say this was probably the first time I’ve actually been able to do the whole thing correctly, that is, without losing track every 2 seconds :lol:. I did 5 cycles and whenever I lost focus it wasn’t really hard to get back on track and keep going. I didn’t see, hear or feel anything at all. When I was done I rolled on my side and tried to fall asleep as fast as possible. Next thing I know I got this lucid feeling and I do a nose RC. My level of lucidity wasn’t the best, but it was pretty vivid and stable. I think what made it less awesome than it could have been was the fact that my DR hasn’t been that great recently, so it feels like I forgot many parts. It was still great, though!

My results with SILD (why 2 S anyway?) are in my DJ. In short, I don’t know what to think, it’s incredible. All of a sudden I find myself in SP, ready to enter a dream, probably after a bit of sleeping too.

I have seen hundreds of report, and based on what I saw there shouldn’t be any relationship between SSILD and nightmares. One possibility, though, is that sometimes after performing SSILD one may suddenly enter SP or an SP-like state while asleep, and for some that can be a little scary and may turn into a nightmare as lucidity fades.

I tried this the night before last and last night. The night before last I woke up at 5:15 and did WBTB for about fifteen minutes before doing this method. I did it and was able to concentrate well, but I wasn’t able to fall back asleep before 6:30, when I had to get up. Last night, I woke up around the same time and tried it without WBTB, figuring I would be able to fall back asleep better. I wasn’t able to concentrate as much, but I got through the exercise and tried to go back to sleep. However, I wasn’t able to fall back asleep until about 6:15, and when I woke up at 8 I hadn’t remembered any dreams that may have been influenced by it.

Please read carefully the bottom section of the article, which describes the reasons for not being able to fall asleep. Also, do not “think” about falling asleep. If you are worried about it you may just get what you fear for :smile: The cycling actually works very well as a way to make you feel very sleepy, if conducted correctly.

Thanks, I’ll check into that.

Hi,

Thank you for your support cosmic.iron.

I did SPs before, this its likely not to induce nightmares when it does happens to me, not affraid ! It must be out of a coincidence, I think.

I tried it again, twice. The first time I thought I could get rid of the 5mn awake step but I almost felt asleep failing at doing even 1 cycle
The second time I respected all the steps you mentionned and had 1 FE in which I managed to do an RC and became lucid again (but I lost it :sad:)

PS : sorry for my bad english though, I am french :smile:

Regards,
alexkid

Great method,

Woke up in the middle of the night, feeling kind of bumd out cause I did not recal even a hint of a dream. Then decided to try this and went to sleep. Then I woke up again later. again nothing… :sad:
However, I tried it again and fell asleep after doing it for so long…
WHOW! I had entered the most vivid dream of my entire life. I was in my hous and after a while water started to pour out of the walls, they even stood on fire. I did a nose check and a hand check but both didn’t work. I just stood there saying:“this must be a dream, but how can it, it’s all too real.” Then I decided that if it was a dream I could fly just as the dream was collapsing, I remeber telling myself: “SSild is Awesome!” I actually didn’t wake up but had at least 3 more dreams before I woke up, but I had to sacefice those to write this one down as good as possible, it was over 3 pages long! So thanks a lot for this teqhinique, will try it again tonight

I’ve been trying this technique very casually for maybe a month now. I hadn’t been having any success, I’ve fallen asleep during cycles, after them, been too awake some nights and tried to shift into a WILD a couple of times after seeing things during the cycles.
I wake up during the night almost every night and so like I sometimes do I decided to give the technique a go. This time I see things during the cycles. I heard voices, vivid images appeared in my head. Normally I’d think “I can WILD here, lets do it.” but this time I decided to just to keep going with the cycles.
I think I made it to the third cycle when I fell asleep. I then found myself in bed and instantly knew I was dreaming, so I sat up and checked my fingers just to be sure and that was it. It wasn’t a WILD since I know I was asleep for some time.

Instead I think it worked for me because by not trying to WILD I didn’t become too excited and I was able to fall asleep. I had the longest LD I can remember thanks to this technique.
Later that same night I had a FA but didn’t realize… so I still have some work to do.

I’m curious to know if many other people actually see things during the cycles. Usually I don’t see anything before I fall asleep (which I understand is perfectly normal) but I don’t seem to have any success when that is that case.
Probably just need more practice :happy:

Congratulations! It is common to see things during the cycles. In fact, the cycles are designed to bring you deeper into the “state” very quickly. It works much better than focusing on one sense for extended period of time. You did the correct thing this time – this is the reason I said in the article that we should NOT treat it as a WILD technique! That being said, you can indeed use the technique for WILD once you become more proficient with it. :smile: Have fun!

Hey,

I already sent cosmic.iron a PM on my results, but i thought that perhaps other people might want to know.

I am used to getting SP and this technique is making me more familiar with it, therefore I am less afraid when it happens. The first night I used SILD I got SP twice. The second night I used it I got what cosmic.iron believes was a FA with SP or a hybrid of awakenings. Whichever it was, it led me to have a very awesome lucid dream! I flew successfully for the first time :hyper:

I was content with the lucid dream, so I didnt try the technique again until a couple of days later. Trying SILD again, I had a FA and also SP. However, this time I didnt convert it to a lucid dream successfully. :sad:

Anyways, I just want to say that this technique is awesome and it works great! With more practice, I think it will be even more successful. I just want to add that, since it important to sort off “fall asleep” while doing this technique, it would be good to know what your mind does when your start to fall asleep. Personally, I know I am doing well with the technique when I start losing focus, space out a bit, and go back to doing the technique. When I space out again, it is more vivid than just random thoughts, and I know I’m close to falling asleep and doing a successful SILD! :hurray:

Thanks Cosmic Iron for sharing this amazing technique. I experienced my first OBE already after two weeks. Never thought it could be so easy. :smile:
When I started, the lucid dreams were very short but soon became longer.
Then lots of realistic FA’s and more vivid normal dreams and the frequency of my lucid dreams went up dramatic. Now I am excercises when I lay on my left side (my normal position when I go to sleep again) instead of my back. I find it more easy to fall asleep. Does that make any difference ?

My mother turned into a nut. I was eating nuts and panicked cause i thought i ate her.

Brain why didn’t you react! :tongue:

I’m happy for you :smile: You can use whatever position that feels most natural for you… as long as you don’t fall asleep in an instant :razz:

I tried this method this morning and I ended up falling asleep almost immediately as I started! I’m kinda new to this stuff, so I’ll keep trying to be more focused. Any suggestions to make sure I don’t just fall asleep before I can do a few cycles?

Try another position to excercise. I am not used to get asleep laying on my back.
Probably you can do so more cycles. After 4 or 5 cycles turn to the position you normally fall asleep.