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abduofuae
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I can't lucid dream :(
PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

I've tried to WBTB technique because it sounds the easiest, i woke up 5 hours after i slept, got out of bed, went on the computer and kept reading about lucid dreaming for about 20 - 30 minutes then I went back to bed, but I just had a normal dream and I couldn't control myself, I'm not using other techniques because they seem to hard and I do not understand the techniques in general
Can someone please help, I never had a lucid dream sadblauw



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Re: I can't lucid dream :(
PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

me too..It's t to easy...u have to do a DJ 'cause it really helps remembering your dreams.U should also try to do RC every now and then in your real life... The wbtb is indeed the easiest..!Keep on trying!!

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

Don't worry, as long as you put some effort, you will have a LD sooner or later. Not many people succeeded in getting a LD on the first try. Do the WBTB, try other techniques like MILD, WILD and DEILD as well. See what works best for you, adapt those techniques so they fit you. Also keep doing RC's, have a DJ - that will raise your awareness and could as well result in DILD's. Don't give up, with enough time you'll have a LD, be it tomorrow, after a week or a month. It's different for everyone, but everyone succeeds. You can't simply say that "I can't lucid dream".


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

It's pretty hard for me to keep a DJ, like today for example, when i woke up to do the WBTB, i woke up and before i started reading i wrote what i dreamed, i had about 6 different dreams with all different people and settings !
When I slept again, they summed up to 13 different dreams, so i had a hard time remembering them all with everything that happened in them, my brain just can't handle all of that together



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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

It takes time, some effort and luck. Just keep trying, you'll get a lucky roll eventually.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

It'd be best to stop panicking and simply do things step by step.

If you don't remember all of them? Who cares? Write down as much as you remember. It's gonna get better.

If I've learned one thing about LDing, it's that you have to be patient. It's a process, you can't go from NDing to being something like a natural LDer over night. Or at least, it's not very likely to happen.

I've tried it for about a year now (unfortunately with a very big break in between in which I couldn't commit myself to LDing as much as I wanted to) and the closest I've come to were mere seconds of lucidity, in which I didn't even have time to do anything because I woke up from all the excitement.

But don't get discouraged by this, first of all it might come faster for you and secondly if you stop trying now, you're gonna regret not having practiced later. I really wish I would've known about LDing at your age. Who knows how many magnificient LDs I would have had if I had started practicing back then?

So.. just go on trying, read books about it, keep your DJ, read the forums, just soak up everything which is helpful to you. Eventually it's going to happen. And: be patient! smile

EDIT: And I've got ANOTHER advice for you.. just ask questions! I remember that in the beginning it was all pretty confusing for me, and I partially didn't understand some of the details even if they were explained somewhere. It sometimes really helps to get a rephrased version of that answer.


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

First of all you need to stop relying too much on techniques.
You have to develop a confidence in your own ability to get lucid dreams, and that confidence should be based on your own excitement, your own concrete LD goals and your ability to recall dreams.
Techniques are only useful if you think of them as some extra assistance.

I say spend a few weeks on simply writing down your ordinary dreams as much as possible, and look for dreamsigns - just writing down your ordinary dreams and reviewing them can be extremely exciting in its own right.
I think it's very important to appreciate even your normal dreams, at least as long as you are chiefly improving your dream recall.

Also, you need to have a real goal to aim for.
"A lucid dream" is not a real goal, it's just the environment where you want to experience something - but what?
You are the only person who can answer that.

And finally, it's important to take it easy in your first lucid dream.
Don't run off and attempt some wizardly the second you become lucid, spend some time on much simpler tasks, like looking at things, touching things and talking to yourself, just so you activate your senses.


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

*Laurelindo* wrote:
I say spend a few weeks on simply writing down your ordinary dreams as much as possible, and look for dreamsigns - just writing down your ordinary dreams and reviewing them can be extremely exciting in its own right.
I think it's very important to appreciate even your normal dreams, at least as long as you are chiefly improving your dream recall.
This is what I'm doing atm. I haven't had any success with WILD and other techniques.
Some nights I can't even remember a ND and that's a bit dissappointing. My main goal is to have very good memory of NDs which in the future may lead to very vivid LDs.

You should do a little research of how you can increase your DR. Even if you did manage to get a LD the first night you might not even have good memory from it, what's the point then?



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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

*Laurelindo* wrote:
"A lucid dream" is not a real goal, it's just the environment where you want to experience something - but what?
You are the only person who can answer that.


Nicely put. I should think more like this! wink


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

Keep trying. It might take a long time but it will be worth it. Keep a dream journal, start doing reality checks and maybe try new techniques. I have had three now and i have gotten them all with DILD.


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

Don't tell yourself that. You have the capability to lucid dream; you just have to preserver, and you will have one. As someone once said (don't remember who):
"There is nothing impossible to him who will try"



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*Laurelindo*
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

It's very important to really believe that you can succeed.
A lot of beginners are intimidated by lucid dreaming and believe it will be really complicated - you need to become master of your dreams, and believe that you have the capacity to direct them the way you want.


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

I think you definately can have a lucid dream. smile However, although it might not happen the first night doesn't mean it won't happen soon. It's important that you have a positive mindset towards it so you don't lose hope so easily. Also...

I would recommend WBTB combined with SILD or SSILD (they are the same thing I think). It stands for Senses Induced Lucid Dream. Just type it into the search. It's pretty straight forward and I heard it gives promising results. It has been a good technique that I use and it requires little effort. However, you NEED to keep a DJ. People try to skip it but effort needs to be placed there. That way when you succeed in having your first lucid dream, you can remember the details.

bounce Good luck! bounce



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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

Keeping a Dream Journal is important for many reasons, and although it might not directly seem to relate to becoming lucid, it actually does.
If you write down your dreams in as much detail as possible you will train your brain to notice details, and this means you will eventually start paying attention to those details while you are dreaming.

One very powerful way to train your lucidity is to try making sense of your dreams - try to find natural explanations for everything, and force your brain to think as logically as possible.
Of course you won't always be able to find sensible answers to some things, but it's still a great way to teach your brain to become more critical.


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul, 2012  Reply with quote

abduofuae wrote:
It's pretty hard for me to keep a DJ, like today for example, when i woke up to do the WBTB, i woke up and before i started reading i wrote what i dreamed, i had about 6 different dreams with all different people and settings !
When I slept again, they summed up to 13 different dreams, so i had a hard time remembering them all with everything that happened in them, my brain just can't handle all of that together


No problem! You are starting out from a great base IMO. Experiment with lying in bed for a moment, gathering your dream memories into your mind, and then move for your dream journal.

Write down everything you can remember, without judgment. Take the time to put it to paper as best you can. Try to trace back from the fragments to other fragments and attempt to reel the whole dream back in if you can. If you can't get much this time, no big deal! This is part of training yourself to connect more deeply with your dreams. It's all valuable and it will get better over time.

Lucid dreaming is a process. Trust the process and stay patient and forgiving with yourself. It's not hard per se -- it's just different from other things that you have done before! Give yourself time to learn it. But understand that you are fully capable of having lucid dreams. In fact, I think it's critical that over time you think of yourself as someone who becomes lucid in dreams. It should become part of your expectations in the dream world. And it really is true!

So definitely drop the idea that you can't lucid dream. It's likely to hold you back and it's false. Think of yourself as a kid who just fell off a bike after trying to ride for the first time. It's not that he "can't ride a bike". He simply has to take time to learn how.

And later when that kid is racing around the neighborhood at top speed (with no hands), we's going to wonder how he ever convinced himself that it was so hard. smile Take the time, put in the work, and have patience. (Like, months of patience.) And yes, I sound like a broken record these days, but I second Lucere's recommendation of SSILD (which you can check out here.) This is what I use.



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