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Location: MI, USA
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well, it didn't work because I totally fell asleep, but I'll try agian tonight, |
Same here. I was trying to get very close to falling asleep without actually going, but I nodded off.
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| Posted: Thu 01 Jul, 2004 |
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Ok, I tried the alarm again, I was getting close, and then the stupid alarm went off again lol...
By that time it was getting bright out, and I could hear all those birds out side, after that, I felt relaxed, but never tired hmm... Maybe I should go to bed earlier.. heh
I also need to try playing music in the background while im sleeping and see if that will wake me up at the correct time, and in a tired state.
** I need to set the alarm volume lower so I come out of the sleeping state slowly **
Last edited by -hargarts- on Thu 01 Jul, 2004; edited 1 time in total
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Basilus West,
The big problem is trying to not only get your self relaxed, but you have to be tired, and feel like you can fall asleep.. If you slept 5-6 hours, you would have more REM, but I would find it hard trying to get into that "tired" state because your body doesnt need much more rest at that point.
About the movement.. If you did a RC, and you were not in a dream, yes it would wake you up even more, but if the tech. works correctly, the RC would be done in a dream, along w/ the sitting up and getting out of bed, therefor it wouldnt wake you up..
And if you do the RC, and you are still awake, I would just go to sleep normally, and try again another day.
I think you can tell how awake you are if you open your eyes,
- If you easily open your eyes, and feel awake, and rested, it's not gonna work. Maybe someone is able to relax to that tired state again, but I know once I feel that feeling of being awake, I cant get rid of it.
- If you open your eyes, still feel tired, and feel like you could easily go back to sleep, you have a good change of it working. (When It worked on my first attempt, I opened my eyes, and looked around before I tried the tech. .. the feeling after i had opened my eyes was very different what you feel in the morning when you wake up normally.. a feeling like Im not done resting, I need to sleep some more)
I think that the only way to get into this state is be slowly woken up in the middle of the night (when it's still dark out (a MUST) - The sun will tell your mind that you are fully rested. Also, a sudden waking jolt from an alarm clock will cause you to lose it) or to somehow semi-wakeup after a dream in the morning (that's what happned the very first time)
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| Posted: Thu 01 Jul, 2004 |
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Much better results.. I fell asleep tho betore I could try 
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Location: Northern California
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| Posted: Thu 01 Jul, 2004 |
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Hola Folks!!
I tryed this method last night, well actually it was this morning but who cares, and my results were these:
I woke up at nine, forgot to set my alarm for four, anyway my dog was barking and woke me up, i did a reality check and nothing, i wasn't sleeping so i decided i would try this method. I started to move my fingers, but instead of 10 secs. i went for about 2 min., i then sat up and did a RC, nothing. However as soon as my head hit the pillow i feel asleep dreaming that i was still in bed, i decided that i would do one more RC before i went to sleep, and low and behold, i was dreaming.
I then became Lucid for my second time and it lasted for about 10 min!!!
Thanks for the method!
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Last Visit: 30 Jan 2005
Location: Norway
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| Posted: Thu 01 Jul, 2004 |
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Congratulations Demon! How long have you been LDing? 
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| Posted: Fri 02 Jul, 2004 |
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About three weeks, when i joined, had my first one a couple of days ago and now my second. 
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| Posted: Fri 02 Jul, 2004 |
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Congrats on your second LD!
How long did it last, and where you able to get out of your bed (I sometimes get SP w/in the dream, so it takes some effort to get up)?
I bet if you had been more tired, you would have fallen asleep while doing the movement
good job
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| Posted: Fri 02 Jul, 2004 |
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It lasted about ten minutes, i'm guessing, but as soon as I realized that i was dreaming I sort of like found myself at school, and I wasn't in the bed anymore. O_o
Also I think that it was a NREM LD because I could feel my RL body roll over and stuff while i was dreaming, and I wasn't doing anything like rolling in the dream.
Are your LDs In NREM sleep also when you do this method?
Oh and thanks for the method, and the congrat!
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Nope, they were normal LDs..
The only thing Iv found strange is that I sometimes get SP inside the dream while I try to stand up.. but once i say "increase lucidity" a few times, it goes away..
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| Posted: Fri 02 Jul, 2004 |
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Yeah I need to remember to "increase lucidity" next time, i was so excited this time that forgot to, and everything was blurry as heck...
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| Posted: Fri 02 Jul, 2004 |
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I just wanna tell u that the tec worked for me! I allmoast didi your tec some min ago and i did my fist "WILD" (i did a RC) but i dont know what to call it.. I was WILDing whit your tec but i haved to check whit a RC..
I did wbtb sleep for 6 h I think…went up to the bathroom.. and back to bed, then I jest relaxed so match that I was almost fell asleep then I raise up form my bed and did a Rc and I was dreaming!!
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Location: Lithuania
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| Posted: Fri 02 Jul, 2004 |
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Zardos said me that he succeed that technique and gave me the link
It sounds very interesting. I mean its very good, because you dont need to wait 30-50 mins like in WILD (i've never succeed WILD), so i will practice this technique i guess
Wish me luck 
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| Posted: Fri 02 Jul, 2004 |
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Ok, I set the alarm again, but it was raining out, and my dog was going nuts heh, So i the alarm ended up going off 2 hours after I had go to sleep... and I never woke up..
The rest of the night, I kept having dreams where the alarm would go off, and I would hear it in my dream, and then wake up.. (I never thought of doing the tech again when i woke from these dreams, or I didnt have time to because I fell asleep again)
Maybe tonight I will have more luck
Good Job Zardos
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| Posted: Sat 03 Jul, 2004 |
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i will definitly try this tonight, and report back if it worked or not.
i never liked WILD (never succeded with it either).. but this sounds great 
I hope it works for me
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