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i try meditation sometimes, nothing serious, just experimenting, like in class. it's nice becuase after a couple of minutes when i open my eyes everything seems more vivid and clear. also the mucscles in my face feel funny like if blink i can really feel it.
anyone else try meditation? i'd like to pm or somthing
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Yeah, I sometimes meditate, but that's a big sometimes. If I did it more, I would probably feel a bit more energetic and clear than usual.
When I find the time, it's usually a task I want to perform that I meditate on, like Lucid Dreaming for example.
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| Posted: Wed 04 May, 2005 |
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http://www.navaching.com/hawkeen/micro.html
this is a great site well worth reading through, i'd start with the very beginning when it talks about physiology, but this meditation method claims that it is somewhat easy to do and greatly enhances lucid dreaming and visualization.
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i've had problems meditating in the past. i've often times got a terrible time keeping focus. Strangely enough my first lucid dream was induced by an attempt at meditation. I went into a nice quiet room, sat in a comfortable position and cleared my mind of all thoughts focusing on a point about three to four feet in front of me while focusing on my breathing. i then fell asleep! lol and then all of a sudden it hit me!"i'm not susposed to be sleeping!! i am supposed to be medita- oh wait i am dreaming... eh, close enough."
i was completely aware i was dreaming, and was in an incredible state of mind and in an incredibly bizzare place as well! (ever see the beatles "yellow submarine" cartoon?) it was one of the more calming and joyful expiriences in my life. unfortunately i have been unable to recreate this expirence.
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| sisokogotai wrote: |
i've had problems meditating in the past. i've often times got a terrible time keeping focus. Strangely enough my first lucid dream was induced by an attempt at meditation. I went into a nice quiet room, sat in a comfortable position and cleared my mind of all thoughts focusing on a point about three to four feet in front of me while focusing on my breathing. i then fell asleep! lol and then all of a sudden it hit me!"i'm not susposed to be sleeping!! i am supposed to be medita- oh wait i am dreaming... eh, close enough."
i was completely aware i was dreaming, and was in an incredible state of mind and in an incredibly bizzare place as well! (ever see the beatles "yellow submarine" cartoon?) it was one of the more calming and joyful expiriences in my life. unfortunately i have been unable to recreate this expirence.
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Heh heh, sounds pretty cool.
Maybe I should try meditating to induce a WILD or something 
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Don't know how to medidiate, any help, I'd be glad! 
Current LD goal(s): I want to get better DR and have LDs again..it's been so long!
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| Posted: Wed 18 May, 2005 |
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Don't know how to medidiate, any help, I'd be glad! |
Simple really. Dont Think!
lol well, bit more complicated then that.
meditation is achieved by stopping thought proccesses, entirely clearing your mind of all thoughts... this is how i do it:
I go to a quiet room or place (crucial! distractions are a no go) where i can be left alone for a while, sit in a comfortable chair (back straight) or meditave posture (indian style works) place my hands in my lap and relax, i feel all the tension leaving my body. i pic a spot on the wall, my foot, a candle, the tape that holds my poster on my wall... anything, just some spot about 1 meter from my face that i can focus on, i stare on only that one spot. i then begin to focus on my breathing, making sure i do not entertain any lingering thoughts that may be randomly popping into my head. i breath in for ten seconds hold momentarily and breath out for fifteen seconds. breathing in and taking all the good energy into my body, breathing out and letting all the bad energy out of my body. and before i know it! i am not thinking any more.
you can meditate on ideas, places, people, sounds, (waves, rain, lightening! or maybe music (calm music, lol) whatever you want! when i meditate i like to picture myself on a desert mountaintop at night watching all the desert bloom and all the life of the desert. its quite beautiful. (home sweet home)
hope i was some help to you, best of luck friend!
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Huh, that's weird. I never knew how to meditate before, but after reading your explanation I find myself imagining things like that... just because they help me relax and it feels nice. (ex. breath in good anergy, breath out bad energy) Other than that, I was thinking about asking that question myself. Helpful! Thanks.
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| Posted: Wed 18 May, 2005 |
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I read in "Control Your Dreams" that people who meditate experience an incredible amount of lucid dreams compared to the non-mediator. Yesterday it was quiet enough in the house for me to meditate for the first time for 20 minutes. It went by pretty fast, and I felt sooo relaxed after. If only I could have my own seperate room for mediating!
Oh yeah, I saw a show on Balance (a TV show about health here in Canada) on meditating. I'll look it up and post the link. It was very useful, though when I first saw it I was just beginning my in-depth research on lucid dreaming. Actually, I think I had just joined the forum. 
Aight, I couldn't find a transcript of the episode. But they provided an external link to http://www.meditationcenter.com/ which is pretty good. 
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| Posted: Wed 18 May, 2005 |
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Meditation is great for lucid dreaming! Most of my WILDS were achieved through meditation or self hypnosis. You can also use meditation for MILD as well by entering a meditative state then repeating your MILD mantra then going to sleep.
Meditation is not a requirement for lucid dreaming but it is a big plus.
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| Skidzz wrote: |
I read in "Control Your Dreams" that people who meditate experience an incredible amount of lucid dreams compared to the non-mediator. Yesterday it was quiet enough in the house for me to meditate for the first time for 20 minutes. It went by pretty fast, and I felt sooo relaxed after. If only I could have my own seperate room for mediating!
Oh yeah, I saw a show on Balance (a TV show about health here in Canada) on meditating. I'll look it up and post the link. It was very useful, though when I first saw it I was just beginning my in-depth research on lucid dreaming. Actually, I think I had just joined the forum.
Aight, I couldn't find a transcript of the episode. But they provided an external link to http://www.meditationcenter.com/ which is pretty good. |
Right, I definately have to start meditating more
I saw a TV show about NDEs, which stated that people who have had mystical experiencs, meditate, practise Tai Chi, etc., seem to have red blood cells with a longer life span that the blood cells of people who don't do these things, so Lucid Dreaming aside, mediation is just down right good for you 
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| Josh Redstone wrote: |
Right, I definately have to start meditating more
I saw a TV show about NDEs, which stated that people who have had mystical experiencs, meditate, practise Tai Chi, etc., seem to have red blood cells with a longer life span that the blood cells of people who don't do these things, so Lucid Dreaming aside, mediation is just down right good for you |
Tai Chi is amazing man!!! I discovered "P.M. Chi for Beginners" and the first time I tried it (in the middle of the day) I could actually feel the energy when doing certain moves (Master someone Sweeps The Water) Like I felt the resistance. What's more, it totally, totally mellows you out!! I'd highly recommend it. I feel all tingly after I do it.
If you want more meditation articles, go to www.balancetv.ca and search for "meditation." 
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| Posted: Wed 18 May, 2005 |
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| Skidzz wrote: |
If you want more meditation articles, go to www.balancetv.ca and search for "meditation." |
Thanks for the link
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| Posted: Wed 18 May, 2005 |
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Yeah Tai Chi works great. Especially in a LD
One remark though about meditation: its purpose is not to stop your thoughts, but to let them be (even your intention of letting it be  ). Observe them, let them arise and disappear inside your mind without getting attached to it. Very difficult, so practicing a lot is very important. Once you're detached from your thoughts, they'll have the tendency to disappear naturally. If you force them to vanish, it will usually have the opposite effect: you'll be MORE attached to them instead of less so instead of make them go away they'll just get stronger and stronger. Don't force them but let them be. If you have lots of repetitive thoughts, don't get distracted by them, but observe them and let them be just as they are. Everything is fine during every moment, so why force them to act otherwise. What matters is your attachment to them. And to handle that you don't need to change your thoughts, but yourself. The rest will then take care of themselves..
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| Posted: Wed 18 May, 2005 |
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| milod789 wrote: |
Meditation is not a requirement for lucid dreaming but it is a big plus. |
Like everybody always says, mind is a muscle, or rather a complex muscle group...
meditation helps to build some of the same mind muscles( heh) that LD uses and requires.
meditation helps you to control your mind, so why shouldnt it help you to control your dreams also?
I would say its a part of a well balanced lucid dreaming breakfa- ehrm...expirience up there with dream journals and reality checks.
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