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LDgirl
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Re: MY "old hag" experience...
PostPosted: Sat 07 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

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Hey ya'll!
I've been reading A LOT about the "old hag syndrome" on here and I wanted to share my story....there are scary similarities. eek2 I haven't told anyone this story until now.
The Old hag came to me about a month ago. I became concious of my HI and all of a sudden I was in my bed at night on my OTHER side. The covers were just below my eyes and all of a sudden, I just KNEW there was an eerie, ominous presense. All of a sudden, I saw a transparent skinny ghostly figure flying around my room real fast. overspannen Then, she came up to my face and screamed for about 5-10 seconds. It was shrill, ear-piercing....just plain horrible. It echoed and rang in my ears until I entered my dream. Weird, huh? I knew, though that it was NOT real. It still scared the daylights out of me though. Does this happen to EVERYONE? I thought this was just a weeeeird experience that I would only have. Has this happened to any of you guys too?


Here is a (really bad ^^ ) painting of this experience. Note: It is MUCH scarier in reality unsure !

http://artpad.art.com/?isqldwiqpl0



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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

I've been having SP's (in FAs) all week so far. Since sunday I think i've had 4 maybe 5.

Today's was the strangest though.

It's started the same as normal, I am laying on my stomach and I wake up (usually FA) and I feel the sheets move and a weight slowly cover my legs upto my back.

For the past couple of years I have been able to get out of this by putting all my "energy" into moving my left arm and waving it behind my back as it to knock off whatever is there. Normally I then wake up or enter a new dreamscape.

Last night however I turned enough to "see" what was weighing me down. There was nothing solid on me, it was like a cube of shadow just sat on the lower part of my body, one of these days I will get an LD and ask it what it wants.


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sleep paralysis
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It all statred a couple years ago in the summer. I would experience all the symptoms of sleep paralysis (except for the malevolent presence) and I would have no idea what happened. When I experience sleep paralysis, it's usually earlier than the time that I regularly wake up (around 11). So I would wake up around 8 or so, I found discover that I cannot move and I have difficulty breathing. I also have the fear that if I let myself back to sleep I will never wake up. So, using all the willpower I can muster, I try to move my leg or I try breathing hard in hopes that the rest of my body will gain conciousness. Usually I am able to move my leg enough that I do completely wake up. The first ten or so times this has happened to me I was really scared and I thought that I was the only one who experiences this phenomemon, but I got used to it eventually and I usually let myself back to sleep. Now tell me, who else regularly experiences sleep paralysis?

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

Yeah, I only get it if I sleep on my back or side. Sometimes it feels like my chest is being crushed and sometimes I feel pain in a certain part of my body like someone is shoving a needle inside of me. It's a good way to leave your body, sometimes I like to roll on my side and I find myself out. When I'm out my experience's are not always pleasant. I don't like sleep paralysis that much, because it's scary.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

Never had it yet... but the Old Hags sound like kind of a turn-off for the whole LDing thing. Speaking of which, I used to have weird things when I was (I think) still mostly awake. I remember 3 in particular.

1. I was just gripped by some weird terror and very distinctly heard an unpleasant voice say, "Where is your family now?" I got so nervous I actually checked on my parents instead of vice-verca... :D

2. I was walking down the stairs of our house, and my vision went behind me. I looked like a simple silhouette, and then "I" tripped and when I landed, a green light flashed and then faded in my head.

3. I think I was actually not even in bed on this one. It's in my old house, although at the time of having it, I lived in that house. I was just sitting there with my sister and my old babysitter watching TV when a big hairy white monster chased us out of the room coming from a door that doesn't exist in that house. It all happened in fast motion, and I had an aerial veiw, like I was a camera in the corner of the ceiling... but it was higher up than the ceiling was.

Haven't had anything like it since though...


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

All this sounds interesting. Getting and Old Hag was my worst fear about LDing when I started but after reading this it sounds like it's pretty... unfixed. I've heard it described everywhere from "The scariest experience of my life" to "Kinda cool." And it sounds like a great shortcut into LD. So I'm not gonna hope for one, but if I get one... one kiss coming up. Then maybe I'll demand a gift. What are some of the gifts people here have gotten? I haven't heard any examples. All I've heard is that they're really cool... 8D

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

I would like to share some thoughts about SP. I have a forum about Sleep Praralysis, and one of the members told me some very interestings things about it. I hope it havent' been said before. If so, sorry... shy2

Basically, it seems like light may have an impact on how much melatonine the body generates during sleep.

For example, if you take a nap in the afternoon, there will be some sunlight coming in your room, therefore, the body will generate less melatonine than the usual, which will make your sleep lighter and may increase the chance to have SP.

Also, it could increase the chance to LD.

When i look back, i realized that during the summer i had a lot of LD and SP during naps, precisely because there is a lot of sunlight.

If you have any thoughts about that, any comment willl be welcome...


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

The first time I had SP, I didn't know anything about it. I was afraid as hell and worried that the room I was staying in might be haunted (silly me). But then, when I moved into another place, I once again had SP. This time, I started to think that it was not the room, it was I that might go crazy and would need a help from a psychiatrist. It was just recently when I started reading about Lucid Dreaming that I became aware that SP was actually common. With this knowledge, I tried to induce LD when experiencing SP a couple of days ago and it worked! Too bad the dream faded away as soon as I became lucid and tried to change things (and failed). Ah well..

Anyway, in my most recent SP (the one I was able to induce LD, if not just momentarily), I actually managed, for the first time after a countless number of SP experiences before, to see a dementor-like figure at the end of my bed. IT WAS DAMN SCARY! I quickly realized it was all just happening in my head and tried to close my eyes and calm down, after which I felt my body sinked into the bed, and suddenly... I was in a dream. I then shared this experience to my friend. He told me that what I saw might not be a hallucination. It could be the real thing. I then told him about the sleep paralysis phenomenon and whatnot. He then argued that instead of giving one hallucination, sleep paralysis actually enabled one to see supernatural things. Yeah right...


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

bye hello asbereth, welcome to the LD4all forum.
SP must be terrifying if you don't know what it is or the reason for it. I'm really glad that more people are now hearing about it in the commonly used media.



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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

The other night I had an "old Hag" experience, here it is.

Im lying in bed almost dozzed off, when I hear a noise. It sounded like a thud. I couldn't figure out what the noise was because everything was so dark. Probably because my eyes were closed.

As I'm trying to figure out what the noise was, I get this feeling that something was in the room with me. It was very dark, but it felt like it was all around me. A heavy sort of feeling. Then for a split second I see what looks like 2 glowing, green eyes.

The eyes were gone, but I could still feel the presence. Out of curiosity and fear I tried to find whatever the thing was.

Noises errupted from downstairs, noisy family woke me up!

The strange thing is I remember lieing in my bed the whole time.


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

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I think it's not something to play about it's not a desease but it seems to be a symthom for a lot of deseases, like narcolepsy or head tumors, so if you have it like me, search medical help imediately! seriously.
Have you seen a doctor yet, Dubaiss? What did they say? Do you have narcolepsy or a head tumour? I have met a lot of people who experience sleep paralysis, and in my case, it runs in the family. None of those serious diseases do.

Sleep paralysis is uncomfortable, it can be very frightening when we don't know what it is, but it is harmless. I have had my share of it, it used to be scary, but now it is only annoying.

Welcome to LD4all, Dubaiss! bye I hope you will find the information in this forum very useful, there is a lot to read, both about sleep paralysis and other interesting topics. There are just so many nice people here, and I look forward to seeing you here in the future. There is also a "Hi, I'm new here" topic in the gathering subforum, where you can post an introduction if you'd like to. Sweet dreams!

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

asbereth wrote:
I then shared this experience to my friend. He told me that what I saw might not be a hallucination. It could be the real thing. I then told him about the sleep paralysis phenomenon and whatnot. He then argued that instead of giving one hallucination, sleep paralysis actually enabled one to see supernatural things. Yeah right...


moogle wrote:
bye hello asbereth, welcome to the LD4all forum.
SP must be terrifying if you don't know what it is or the reason for it. I'm really glad that more people are now hearing about it in the commonly used media.


Well, Asbereth, if it makes you feel better to identify it as all in your head, be comfortable. These sort of experiences (both lucidity and Old Hag) tend to make many people reevaluate just what their understanding of reality is, but to each their own.

I will remark that I find Moogle's comment that "more people are hearing about it in the commonly used media" interesting. It is a comment upon the loss of connection that modern urban society has with the continuity of human experience. For centuries, such phenomenon were commonly known by the majority worldwide. After all, where do you think our word "nightmare" comes from?

Eoghan


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PostPosted: Tue 07 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

Wait... I always thought that nightmare and sleep paralysis are two different things. All of this time, I always thought that nightmare is a 'bad dream' (like if you're having an accident or something in your dream), and sleep paralysis is something that occurs when you're not totally asleep. Ah well.

Anyway, maybe this is old for most of you, but I found out that whenever I have an SP, it would almost always lead me to WILD. Instead of trying to wake up, try to calm down and sleep! You would then see the hypnogogia images (or whatever they're called) at the back of your head, and literally stepping into your dream knowing it. Well, most of the time I lost conciousness, but it's still pretty cool.


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PostPosted: Tue 07 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

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Wait... I always thought that nightmare and sleep paralysis are two different things.

They are: but quite a few people experience the Old Hag phenomena during SP.



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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006  Reply with quote

Hi, this is my first post

I stumbled upon this site after stumbling upon the wikipedia article on lucid dreaming. I'm pretty sure that i've had two "old hag" experiences before. The first involved a summon from Final Fantasy 10, Yojimbo, appearing from my closet and scaring the crap out of me. The second, and worst of the two, involved seeing ghosts of currently alive relatives passing over me. I went for hours thinking they had died. Is that kind of experience normal? I plan on taking up lucid dreaming as a hobby, but now I'm worried that these will begin to occur frequently.


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