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The BIG sleep paralysis and old hag topic Part III
PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

<mod> This is a split topic <Part I><Part II> <mod>

When I was about three I woke up in the middle of the night and saw an old hag standing above me. She looked like a witch and was shaking me and leaning on my chest. I was terrified because I thought I was awake. That is my first and so far only time I have expeirenced that. SP I get often whwn I wake up in the morning. I used to be scared of it because I thought I was going to suffocate, but now I look forward to it so I can use it to get a WILD. Any good ways to induce it? whatsthat


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

SP is fun in most cases for me. ^^ It means I can go ahead and slip into the lucid state very easily and have some fun! 8D

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

Well, I've yet to experience SP while falling asleep. I've never really tried WILD, though. I would have gone for it while I was experiencing SP that one night, but I had just awoken from a dream that I needed to write down. I was afraid that if I fell right back asleep, I'd forget the other dream.

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

I believe the three main methods are to
a. roll out of 'your body' to free yourself in your dream
b. pull yourself up using an imaginary rope
c. attempt to create some dream HI to step into

If you browse around the forum you should find some detailed posts about it. boogie (may be even in this topic)



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ive seen old hag
PostPosted: Sat 18 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

<mod>moved from the BIG WILD topic</mod>

hey everyone
hope all is well and enjoying themselves on the quest to lucid dreaming anyway.. i am..
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i seen the old hag a couple of years ago, all that happened was i felt awake, and looked at the end of my girlfriends bed, of whom i was sleeping with at the time, and seen a black figure crouch over the bed and stare at me for about 20 seconds, i wasnt scared, infact felt no emotion to this, and after the 20 seconds i simply lay back and went to sleep, it wsnt until the next morning that i really came to terms with what had happened...weird but to me thats wat old hag is, i swore it was a ghost at the time, but i think old hag, this never returned, hope this helps
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SP (i take it this means sleep paralysis?)
PostPosted: Sat 18 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

lol tounge2
I was reading up on the brain the other day because I got bored (very interesting, I very much recommend it grin and read about dreaming and how the brain works. Now before, I thought that sleep paralysis was only a result of Lucid Dreaming, but now I have read that you get sleep paralysis in the same way from normal dreams...
does this mean that sleep paralysis is a common thing and that we experience it frequently?


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

Yes, all of us experience sleep paralysis every night. The brain does this to stop us from acting out our dreams. We just don't actually feel it very often because it usually sets in after we fall asleep and goes away before we wake up. ^^
Waking up with SP for example, could happen no matter if you were having an LD or a ND, since it happens every time we dream.


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

Kudos to Kenneth, great post. ^^

SP always happens when we dream, no matter whether it's a normal night of NDs or some WILDing. It's all in noticing that it's happening. You never really pay attention until something forces you to.

For example: The phrase, 'my bad', may be rarely heard, but if I tell you to actually look for it you'll hear it all iver the place.

Funny, eh? ^^


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

You may find as you are performing WILD and in general practising lucid dreaming that you may ocassionally be aware during sleep paralysis.

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

I get SP all the time. At least 3 times a week. It's kind of annoying, and I always find myself on my back (I never sleep on my back)

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

I had an extremely intense hallucination during my first SP. My entire room became some kind of demonic underworld. I heard ghostly voices and there was a very loud "sucking" noise the whole time, like howling wind mixed with movie sound effects, you know?

anyway it was really crazy. And everything faded away as I came out of the paralysis. I think it was pretty cool even though I felt a bit of fear. smile


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

I see.. thanks :D

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

Yeah, I've experienced that too.I couldnt move and saw shadows moving and strange voices howling around the room. Hypnagogic Imagery + Sleep Paralysis can be quite scary if you dont know whats happening smile

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SP I need help please...
PostPosted: Mon 27 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

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I am new to these forums as of 5 minutes ago, so please excuse my ignorance, but I am getting desperate for help. This SP happens to me every night without fail. I cannot move for the life of me, yet I know I'm not dreaming because I'm right where I was before I laid down and the same show is still on T.V ect...An overwhelming sense of fear overcomes me. I don't know why or what there is to be afraid of. As far as the witch that I've read a bit about. I don't see anything like that, but I do see other things- for example I heard something moving around in the branches of my plant in the corner, and another time I heard someone walking around on my front porch and knocking at my door. I tried so hard one time to move that I was grinding my teeth so hard that I actually chipped one. This only started a couple months ago. Anyone know what brings this on?? It happend for the first time with my wife lying beside me the other night. The worst time this happens is when my 5 month old son is sleeping on my chest, I mean what if he starts crying or needs something, and for christ's sake I can't even move. At the same time though I thought that when this happens I am actually dreaming or having an out of body experience because for example one time that it happend- I was lying down on the couch in the living room, I couldn't move but I could see into the kitchen, which just isn't physically possible unless i can see through walls. That was what made me think maybe an out of body experience. When I tried to do that again though (moving around out of my body or trying to see into other rooms) it didn't work. I am now conviced it is just SP. Why is this happening to me every night and why do I also feel so afraid. Someone please help.....


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Re: SP I need help please...
PostPosted: Mon 27 Mar, 2006  Reply with quote

cofee wrote:
I am new to these forums as of 5 minutes ago, so please excuse my ignorance, but I am getting desperate for help. This SP happens to me every night without fail. I cannot move for the life of me, yet I know I'm not dreaming because I'm right where I was before I laid down and the same show is still on T.V ect...An overwhelming sense of fear overcomes me. I don't know why or what there is to be afraid of.


Hey coffee... smile

What you experienced is, indeed, SP. SP is most of the time associated with fear, mainly because the one who experience it does not know what is going on. Don't worry, nothing can hurt you... smile


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As far as the witch that I've read a bit about. I don't see anything like that, but I do see other things- for example I heard something moving around in the branches of my plant in the corner, and another time I heard someone walking around on my front porch and knocking at my door. I tried so hard one time to move that I was grinding my teeth so hard that I actually chipped one. This only started a couple months ago. Anyone know what brings this on??


Ones can see a bunch of different kind of hallucinations, in a big majority people hear or sense an evilish presence.
Stress can increase the frequency of SP, sleeping with light on as well. There is some things you can do to decrease this frequency. Try to sleep in an usual position ( sleeping on your back may be triggering SP ), do not leave any lights on when going to bed, and don't be affraid, the more you'll be affraid, the more you will likely have SP.


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It happend for the first time with my wife lying beside me the other night. The worst time this happens is when my 5 month old son is sleeping on my chest, I mean what if he starts crying or needs something, and for christ's sake I can't even move.


Don't worry, what happens during SP is all dream, even though it seems so realistic. Further more, an external stimuli makes SP disappear almost right away. IF your baby cries when you have an SP, you will get out of it immediatly.


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At the same time though I thought that when this happens I am actually dreaming or having an out of body experience because for example one time that it happend- I was lying down on the couch in the living room, I couldn't move but I could see into the kitchen, which just isn't physically possible unless i can see through walls. That was what made me think maybe an out of body experience.


That makes me think it is actually a dream.


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When I tried to do that again though (moving around out of my body or trying to see into other rooms) it didn't work. I am now conviced it is just SP. Why is this happening to me every night and why do I also feel so afraid. Someone please help.....


I don't know why, and maybe you shouldn't see this as a plague but as an opportunity to get a lucid dream every time it hapopens. It ain't easy but with a little practise, considerig you have a lot of SP ) you may make progress very quickly...


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