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PostPosted: Thu 04 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Josh Redstone wrote:
I have friends who've started smoking mostly for, in my humble opinion, completely stupid reasons.


Yeah, it's hard to explain why I smoke to non-smokers. I first started smoking because people told me it would prolong a cannabis high, which ended up being untrue. i kept going because, even though it dosent give you a noticable high, it is very pleasureable, and I like the taste.

Nicotine patch update - For most of the day(my first whole one without a smoke) it was very hard. I was irritable to the point of almost being violent. About a half hour after putting on the patch, I became almost euhporic. A huge increase in energy too. Alot of it is probably placebo, but it is really helping.


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PostPosted: Fri 05 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Ok, another patch update. My physical cravings have gone down ALOT. I still have mental images of a burining cigarette, and I think about how nice it would be, but I'm doin' ok. I slept with it on last night, and I had the most vivid dreams of my life. Exelent dream recall as well.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 May, 2006  Reply with quote

I was waiting for my brother in the car right after school today, and some kid walks down to the sidewalk in front of it. He's my age, if not younger, but he pulls out a pack of cigarettes in broad daylight, shakes it, and lights one up.

I really worry about people sometimes...


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PostPosted: Fri 05 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Ive got 2 friends that are smoking when they miht get a cigarette from older friends (yes Friends not "friends" wink5 )

or grab one from home.

I have taken a few tries and it made me even more against smoking.

They think it is "so cool" <rolls eyes>

I mean , if I were to do something other than my parents would want me to , just for the sake of it , I would rather take a jummy bottle of beer (yes i think it tastes good) or more wink5


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PostPosted: Fri 05 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Heh, my parents are ok with me smoking or drinking as long as I'm honest with them. Do you think not being allowed makes people want to smoke?

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PostPosted: Sat 06 May, 2006  Reply with quote

I think im would encourage some and stop others , but the ones being stopped will most likely try soon or later.

A girl in my class hd a irthday party with drinking and her parents were in the neighboor house knowing it.


My parents aint that way , and I dont really like that.

But it is kinda "normal" too , that they aint like that.

And I feel that i have pretty much common sense in me , more than many in my grade (we were in denmark (easier to get beer and such) with the football team , i ahd 3 beers , a friend ended up at hospital neutral )


For some it is a point to do "not what youre mom tells u too !"


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PostPosted: Sat 06 May, 2006  Reply with quote

you could try wearing a rubber band around your wrist and snapping it really really hard every time you want a cigarette.

maybe not the best idea.

i smoked marijuana for about a year and had to quit because of what the smoke did to my lungs....

have you ever coughed up little solid blocks of mucus that are so thick that they get lodged in your throat.... that you feel them slide all the way up when you hack on them?

My lungs must be full of them.... it's really nasty and terrible....... maybe I just had bad luck because people seem like they can toke up their whole lives and not have too many health problems, but no not me.

Maybe it was because the weed was a really low quality too.

Unfortunately quitting weed is one thing, you just WANT it, but nicotine is more addictive than heroin. All I can tell you is if it doesn't kill you of cancer, it will severely weaken your lungs.... do you really want to have terrible lungs that make breathing and living a constant chore for something that doesn't even SATISFY you?

It feels good because you are feeding withdrawals, it's relaxing because your brain says I WANT NICOTINE ..... it's supposed to be a stimulant! but people get so attached that it becomes relaxing instead... that's messed up man.

Best of luck. Aside from high potency fresh hallucinagenic tobacco for spiritual purposes [like how Native Americans did it], there is no point in smoking. None. If you want to relax there are better ways. If you want stimulation there are better ways.

I sometimes wonder if the tobacco problems our nation has is a Native American curse for us ruining their lands.... now smokers are ruining our air and far worse, their lungs... and the lungs of those immediately surrounding them.

Everytime I see someone smokig up I see a SMOKING PERSON.... literally, a being that emits smoke....... festering..... smelly...... decayed..... smoking from pollution.....

it's a disturbing thing to watch. I wish all smokers well.

Best thing is to quit. Next best thing is harm reduction.

It's hard to just fight off the desire to get stoned so .... you have my sympathy.

everytime you want to smoke because you feel bad, realize that the "high" of smoking is a TRADE OFF for the LOW of withdrawal..... that this state of withdrawal is your base state each time you nurture the habit, that this is what you are doing to your mind....

if the withdrawal feels terrible, the smoke should be euphoric, absolutely blissful and transcendent... but it isn't, is it?


you can fight through dude, you just have to win your mind. You have to have the atittude of success...... that's all.


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PostPosted: Sat 06 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Bruno wrote:
Heh, my parents are ok with me smoking or drinking as long as I'm honest with them. Do you think not being allowed makes people want to smoke?


Maybe, my parents never minded when I drank as long as they knew where I was and that I was safe, and of course now, I don't even like drinking that much ^^


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PostPosted: Sat 06 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Bruno wrote:
Heh, my parents are ok with me smoking or drinking as long as I'm honest with them. Do you think not being allowed makes people want to smoke?
Depends, of course. My parents actually don't mind if I smoke. They say I'll puke and end up hating it anyway. I'm not going to do it, anyway. Kills my already asthmatic lungs and is bad for tennis. tounge2

Anyway, I've been following this story for a while and I never realized just how difficult it could be for some people to quit the addiction. Just don't quit on yourself, there, DayLight! smile


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PostPosted: Sat 06 May, 2006  Reply with quote

In my personal experience, sports help. Working out, running, bicycling. It makes you feel good and healthy and psychologically it makes it easier to stay away from cigarettes because smoking and being sportive and fit are totally contradicting. Also things like running produce a "high", and the endorphins that cause this high are a good substitute for smoking because nicotine also creates an elevation in endorphins.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 May, 2006  Reply with quote

holy reality wrote:

have you ever coughed up little solid blocks of mucus that are so thick that they get lodged in your throat.... that you feel them slide all the way up when you hack on them?


sadyes That has got to be one of the most disgusting things ever. I smoke cannabis occasionally, and I think that happens with cannabis because it is an expectorant. I found it so gross, and it made such an impact on me, I actually drempt about it a few times.

I had a smoke last night, but I think I'm back on track...It's getting hard... overspannen


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PostPosted: Sun 07 May, 2006  Reply with quote

I've been trying to get my mom to quit smoking like forever, but no luck. I wonder how much second-hand smoke I've inhaled over the years overspannen

Hang in there, Daylight! It might be tough, but don't give up! :D


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PostPosted: Sun 07 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Good luck man.I'm smoking as well and i can tell you that it's not that you want to smoke it's cause (for me at least) you don't have anything else to do,so if it comes to you again try to find something to do instead of smoking,and of course it's because you're used to it.
When i have nothing to do,i just take the pack of cigars and light one,then i think "why am i smoking??"and then i just think "I light it so i'll do it!"
The other prob is that you don't have a good DR.
F.e:It's time i do a cigar before i go to sleep,i don't remember not even one of my ND.When i don't smoke ,i remember at least two of them.
So again good luck from me ,maybe some time i'll try again to quit smoking shy2


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PostPosted: Sun 07 May, 2006  Reply with quote

I've never had a poor dream recall problem with smoking, mabye it's because you smoke more(you appear to be smoking cigars and I smoke cigarettes).

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PostPosted: Sun 07 May, 2006  Reply with quote

Bruno wrote:
Heh, my parents are ok with me smoking or drinking as long as I'm honest with them. Do you think not being allowed makes people want to smoke?

My parents are like that as well, and i never ever smoked a cigarette

I also know of someone who handed their 8-9 year old daugther a cigarette when she asked about how it feels. Well, she never smoked again.


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