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Forming a Relationship with your Subconscious

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Robin
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Jul, 2006  Reply with quote

Everytime I say "in four hours I will realize that I'm dreaming" it just sounds so empty. I can't help it, it's like my mind (or subconscious) doesn't even get the meaning of it and thus it will not work (I feel that). I can't make myself understand the meaning of the sentence (sounds crazy, but it's like that), do you (or anybody else) have any suggestions what I can do to free my mind?

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

Robin, I know this sounds obvious..but just think of another statement! tounge2

Why try breaking through a locked door, when there is one right next to it that is open?


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

BenDrummin58 wrote:
Robin, I know this sounds obvious..but just think of another statement! tounge2

Why try breaking through a locked door, when there is one right next to it that is open?


Where? ^^

I have this problem with a lot of stuff, maybe it comes from my concentration disorder. But, indeed saying "I will still know this idea tomorrow" worked. But what can I use then?


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

Well..a good one that was just presented to me by jepeltw would be "I will become lucid in my last REM cycle during my next sleep". Of course it doesn't have to be exactly like that..because that one is a bit long..lol. Just form it into something that is simple enough, yet gets the point to your SC.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

BenDrummin58 wrote:
Well..a good one that was just presented to me by jepeltw would be "I will become lucid in my last REM cycle during my next sleep". Of course it doesn't have to be exactly like that..because that one is a bit long..lol. Just form it into something that is simple enough, yet gets the point to your SC.


Dead thread, I know, but I have to say, this sounds like an awesome idea! I've been using autosuggestion all wrong. I used to say "I will have a lucid dream tonight." Lol. I suppose I haven't been motivated much either =[. I'll try this tonight! xD!


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

haha! I found this thread the other day but didn't post because I was afraid to poke the dead :D

I've been doing autosuggestion these past nights with great results. I recommend taking a look at this thread too in case you haven't already ^^

According to it I've been doing it wrong overspannen

Best of luck with it!



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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

mattias... wrote:
haha! I found this thread the other day but didn't post because I was afraid to poke the dead :D

I've been doing autosuggestion these past nights with great results. I recommend taking a look at this thread too in case you haven't already ^^

According to it I've been doing it wrong overspannen

Best of luck with it!


Ha,ha thanks! That's really funny tounge1.


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

I'm going to give this a try. My LD's have been few and far between lately and I feel as if I just haven't been that focused.

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

I know this is a rather old thread, but seeing that it has slightly re-opened a bit, I decided to post. reallybiggrin

Wow, whenever I tried Autosuggestion, I've been doing it completely wrong. Ben, this was very informative and uplifting! Thank you so much because you just boosted my confidence. tumbsuplinkswitteduim And also special thanks to mattias for directing me to this lovely thread!

I am definitely going to try this, and I think I'll start today. I'm so excited, this sounds like something that could work for me. Unfortuantely... I think I'm getting my hopes a little too high. I have trouble being 100% sure about what I'm saying. /: But I've got to give this a shot! Once again, I know this is an old thread but, I'll post my results throughout the week just to put it out there. draait

P.S. This should totally go in the Lucid Library!


~Namine


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan, 2010  Reply with quote

Put this in the library too.

http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12308

I think this would help.


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Aug, 2010  Reply with quote

"Tonight when I am dreaming I will Realise I am Dreaming and Take control" good enough?

I have never tried this whole Insert Time technique before How many more people does this work for?


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug, 2010  Reply with quote

Should you say 'I am' or 'I will'?

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug, 2010  Reply with quote

Forget what you've come to know as being 'realistic'. Just smile and pretend you're a kid again. smile Anything you think is real, and can happen. Kind of like 'The Secret'<<incase you haven't heard of it theres a documentary on it, and it's also a book ^^ >> If you say you will have a luicd dream, it will happen...unless you manage to take too much conscienceness with you and you wake up tounge2

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep, 2010  Reply with quote

compulsive thinker wrote:
Should you say 'I am' or 'I will'?

I wrote this article four years ago, hehe. If you would've asked me then, I may have had a different answer, but I believe the words "I am" are far more powerful than "I will". Wants and desires are a lot weaker than what's actually happening. Using "will" only tells your mind that at this very moment, you cannot--but sometime in the future, you hopefully can. "Am", however, says that not only can you do it now, but also that you always have been and will be able to do it.

I didn't like what I wrote here as time progressed, which is why I rewrote the article. You can find the alterations here:

http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37023


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep, 2010  Reply with quote

Wow.

Today I was walking home through some deserted place and had the idea to talk to my subconscious out loud. "Subconscious, obey me. I order you to inform me of when I am dreaming. You must tell me when I am dreaming."
I knew that my relationship with my subconscious needed to be reestablished.

Bendrumming58, I have read your more recent topic. After I first read it, I was saying to myself." I AM lucid dreaming." all day, and I would write it down too and that night I was in a dream when I said to myself, "I am lucid dreaming." and voila! lucid

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