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The FILD tech (was HILD) - part II

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LiQuiDreams
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

Robin wrote:
Can I do this reality check if I just close my nose without using my hand? Just, you know close it. Does that work too?


Wait, how can you close your nose without your fingers? With your toes? A nose plug? whatsthat

Well, however it is, i guess that would still work since all you need to check is if you can breathe with your nose closed or not.


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mocha55
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

I tried doing this before, but I always feel that my fingers have stopped moving and when I do the RC I'm still awake. I wait for a few minutes before RCing too. Maybe I should keep trying. =D

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

LiQuiDreams wrote:
Robin wrote:
Can I do this reality check if I just close my nose without using my hand? Just, you know close it. Does that work too?


Wait, how can you close your nose without your fingers? With your toes? A nose plug? whatsthat

Well, however it is, i guess that would still work since all you need to check is if you can breathe with your nose closed or not.


Lol, I knew this question would come. How am I gonna explain this? I'm using my nose, no other part of the body to close it. When I speak like this, it sounds like I have a cold. Am I the only one that can do this? I guess not...


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Vi
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

You mean like, closing the pathway to your nose in your throat, so you can only breathe through your mouth. And then closing your mouth, so that you can't breath at all.

Why didn't we all think of this before? It has got to be the least conspicuous RC ever. Finally, our days of hearing "umm... why are you holding your nose while staring at it with one eye closed?" are OVER!

But, since that little muscle in our throats is so easy to use, it could be that when we just begin to dream, we'd still close our physical nose like that. It will take experimentation.


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Robin
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

*Robin feels like a hero now.

I haven't thought of closing my mouth, just trying to breathe through the nose while closing it. But this is good, so there is actually no way to breathe, except opening it, but you can feel the difference of breathing through the closed nose or opening it and breathing then. Maybe some experienced LDer has to try this out.


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LiQuiDreams
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

Vi wrote:
You mean like, closing the pathway to your nose in your throat, so you can only breathe through your mouth. And then closing your mouth, so that you can't breath at all.


Meh, i still don't know how that is done. But still apparently others know how, so

*Hands a cookie for Robin for being a hero



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PostPosted: Mon 14 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

yeah me neither.. sounds great though, cause that way you dont even have to move at all. perfect... now just have to figure out how to do that tounge2

P.S. this tech worked for me once again last night, and it was a higher level ld than the last one smile no other tech has worked this great for me.


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StEvE21
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

For those of you who don't know how to do this, all you have to do is close your mouth and try to breathe in (through your mouth. Pinch your nose if you have to). You will feel an area on the lower part of your neck go in slightly. It is right in between the closest points of the collar bones, and goes up an inch from there (between your collar bones and where the adams apple is for guys). When you get the hang of contracting the muscles where the back of your mouth meet your throat, you can do this without closing your mouth.

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Mr_Garak
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

Gah, this still hasn't worked for me. I think I'm getting to excited at the prospect of having my first LD. I really need to relax and just let it flow over me using this technique.

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Shorinji
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

just to let you all know that once again this worked for me, and I even did a slight change to the tech, not much, but it worked great.

go here if you want to read about it http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20219


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liberty1720
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

HILD=AWESOME!

lol...well i just wanted to give my own support to the HILD tech. I just learned about this tech last week and i've had problems with remembering i had to move my finger once i was really tired...instead i would just roll over and go back to sleep. But this morning i was able to remember to do the tech and became lucid!!...amazing stuff i tell ya...lol...hope that helps!


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Robin
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug, 2006  Reply with quote

It's called FILD.

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Mr_Garak
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Sep, 2006  Reply with quote

liberty1720 wrote:
HILD=AWESOME!

lol...well i just wanted to give my own support to the HILD tech. I just learned about this tech last week and i've had problems with remembering i had to move my finger once i was really tired...instead i would just roll over and go back to sleep. But this morning i was able to remember to do the tech and became lucid!!...amazing stuff i tell ya...lol...hope that helps!


I've got to start trying this technique again...


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RLC Davidson
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Sep, 2006  Reply with quote

StEvE21 wrote:
For those of you who don't know how to do this, all you have to do is close your mouth and try to breathe in (through your mouth. Pinch your nose if you have to). You will feel an area on the lower part of your neck go in slightly. It is right in between the closest points of the collar bones, and goes up an inch from there (between your collar bones and where the adams apple is for guys). When you get the hang of contracting the muscles where the back of your mouth meet your throat, you can do this without closing your mouth.


It's also the same way you hold your breath. Essentially all you're doing is holding your breath, while you've no breath to hold. If you hold your breath you'll notice that you can't breathe in, because the muscles you use to hold your breath, also prevent you from breathing in.


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liberty1720
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Sep, 2006  Reply with quote

Mr_Garak wrote:
I've got to start trying this technique again...

i highly recommend it! I don't know how it works so well but last night i was able to have four LD's through this tech. It's come to the point that i just automatically do the tech when i wake up in the middle of the night...and if it doesn't work...it's cool...just go back to sleep...there's not point losing valuable sleep time...maybe even because you've done it so much though you'll do it in a dream...and become lucid! Goodluck on your tries!


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