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The Importance Of Reality Checks.
PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Why do you do reality checks in the daytime? Please correct me if you don't. But to me, doing a reality check in the daytime seems stupid. That's because I KNOW that I'm not dreaming, my concious and subconcious brain knows I'm not dreaming, so I don't need a reality check. Please explain and elaborate.

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Re: The Importance Of Reality Checks.
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Dreaming, Me? - Never wrote:
Why do you do reality checks in the daytime? Please correct me if you don't. But to me, doing a reality check in the daytime seems stupid. That's because I KNOW that I'm not dreaming, my concious and subconcious brain knows I'm not dreaming, so I don't need a reality check. Please explain and elaborate.


do it in the daytime so it becomes a habit, so that you would do it in your dreams aswell, and become lucid


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

It's nothing stupid about it.
Dreams usually contain fragments of events that
occured during daytime.
So there is a probability that you will do a realitycheck in your dream.
That's the reason why people are doing them daytime, so that they hopefully will occur in a dream.


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

yeah, doing RC's are important if you wanna do techniques like MILD, or DILD RC"s would really help

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies, but i still don't understand. You do a reality check to build a habit for your dreams? So your doing a RC, knowing that your not dreaming, just to build a habit?

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

I've been also wondering about that one:

In reality I'm sure that I am not dreaming, and I know it. But in dreams I'm also convienced that I am not dreaming. RC's are great way to question and test your current reality.

Edit:Well, habit is also important smile


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Ok. You do it while you're awake to it becomes habit like everyone else said. But it has more affect then you obviously think. When you do a RC you have to really consider the fact that you might be dreaming. Because when you're dreaming do you know you're dreaming? Not unless you're lucid! So doing reality checks often imprints it into your concious and subconcious.

So now that its imprinted, you're in a dream and you don't know you're dreaming. You do a RC like you always do, WOAH wait a minute! You're not awake! Woot.

Do you get it now? When you're asleep you don't know you're asleep. So whats to say you arn't asleep right now? Because dreams do seem real when you're in them. You need to learn to prove that they are not. RC's is how you do it.


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

I dont really find RC very important anymore. I never use them in LD's anymore because i already know im lucid when the dream first begins.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Bright_Eyes_Rocks wrote:
I dont really find RC very important anymore. I never use them in LD's anymore because i already know im lucid when the dream first begins.


wow, if only i knew that >.<. i ALWAYS miss my dreamsigns thats why i got into doing RC's ive had a few ld's with em.. about 3 or 4


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

I dont really see any dreamsigns i just know im luicid, its kinda cool i guess.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Even if you "know" during daytime that you aren´t dreaming, you normally don´t think that you COULD be dreaming, thus your brain takes the reality as simply granted.
The second you do a reality check (or even just think about dong one for that matter), your brain has to take into consideration that it could be dreaming, waging the different factors of perception against each other.
When i do rality checks i don´t think so much about the action itself but much more about the possibilities that could be.
Am i awake or am i dreaming.
You are in a more aware state of mind and thus more able to recognize that you are dreaming, if you are questioning things.


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Re: The Importance Of Reality Checks.
PostPosted: Mon 01 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Dreaming, Me? - Never wrote:
That's because I KNOW that I'm not dreaming, my concious and subconcious brain knows I'm not dreaming, so I don't need a reality check.


*Sonia clears her throat loudly.

Oh, of course we all feel the same way during waking life; we're completely sure that we're awake, but so are we in dreams! I've had plenty of dreams in which I was completely sure that I was awake, and yet all it took was a reality check to prove otherwise. In fact, if you go by that logic, even while you're awake and sure of it, you have to take the time to think to yourself, if I'm so sure that I'm awake in a normal dream before lucidity, why should I be so sure now?

As some people mentioned already, doing reality checks eventually become a habit so that when the time comes, you'll remember to RC during a dream. In fact, the mentality that you're explaining now can easily block attaining lucidity; before becoming lucid I've had experiences where I "KNOW" that I'm not dreaming. There have also been a few experiences where I was so sure of this that the reality check failed and I never became lucid because I was so sure that I wasn't in a dream.

That isn't to say that I have a tough time with lucid dreaming or that all lucid dreams start out this way; I've had several lucid dreams where I suddenly became lucid without the need of a reality check, or the dream started out lucid or whatever. However, some dreams are just a tad more doubtful.


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Lucidity is when you really can say "I am dreaming!" The thing is, your brain wants to tell you, sometimes very effective, that you're not. So even if you're 100% sure that you're awake over the day (and you can be), while you're dreaming sometimes you're just almost as sure. Reality checks make the line between those two clearer and LDing easier.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

I use RCs while i'm lucid, to increase lucidity..

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

As some people have pointed out, part of doing an RC is getting in the habit, but just as important as getting in the habit of doing the RC's is. It is also learning to get in the habit of questioning if you are dreaming or not. As many have said, you always "know" when you are not dreaming, however, if you never question if you are dreaming or not durring a dream, then you will also "know" that you are not dreaming in the dream. That is also why many say that after a while they no longer need to do RC's. They have gotten in the habit of questioning reality, so as soon as they start to question it, they know if they are in a dream or not, and if they are in a dream, they become lucid.
The fact is that we are used to accepting dreams as reality while we are in them. All kinds of things can happen that we know can't happen in reality, but in the dream it is ok. What we are doing with RC's is teaching ourselves to be a bit more critical in our dreams so that we can become lucid.
Note: this does not work for everyone. You can find lots of posts here about how many and how offten RC's fail in dreams. You can also find lots of people who say that RC's are the tech. that gives them the most dreams.
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