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Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part II
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Angstyboy wrote:
Well, yes... I really want to meet with Harley/Rouge in an LD. That would make me feel much better. I can then ask her questions freely, without the conscious mental blocks. (I would ask her all of her names, but seeing as she changes frequently and on fancy that would be futile. At least she doesn't drastically change her physical appearance... yet.)

I'm hoping for an LD tonight to meet her... I don't know. I'll have to see how that works out. I'd probably end up doing something stupid anyway -.-

"Ameyume La Rocque"... Ameyume; "Hard candy dreams" - Reminds me of Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi. La Rocque; "Rook - fortified tower". Of course, she could care less what "La Rocque" means... she just likes the way it "rolls off her tongue"... "La Rocque..."

"Amijin'ei[no] Chamemugen" - "Man's shadow friend [of] infinite playfulness/mischief"... Just trying out names now. Of course, the shortened versions of these names she can conceive are many.

Other names she's tried: [Scarlette] Charade... (She really likes that one.) Machàdé... Chàmel Ricci... Çamìl...

Interesting...


WOW! That's amazing... she has such an interesting mind..O-o; :3 I think it improbible she'll ever think it interesting to come and speak on here!

XD She sounds so interesting, I can't wait to hear more!
I do hope she becomes more solid, and that you can have more lucids to achieve this XD

Ahhh! I am glad she is coming along so well-- this post is so short! I feel like I am cheating by not putting just as much as you down... D:
I'm sorry!

Apologetically yours--
Talon! D:>


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Tribemaker wrote:
lol Angstyboy I would look foward to such a discussion. The last time I heard about the M-theory was when I read James Maxwell's paper entitled "A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field." It was quite fascinating. The concept of unifying the five superstring theories is incredible. I hope that I get the chance to read further on the subject soon.

As far as Einstein's Cosmological Constant, does it annoy you as much as it does me that it is so misunderstood? I mean, most people think that it leads to a perfect static universe. It is only common sense that an equilibrium would be unstable in an expanding universe. Ahh well, had to vent on that lol.

Thanks Angstyboy, I am quite happy that you answered my questions, it helps quite alot when there are two opinions on something, as you would know yourself from your evident intelligence.

As far as character progression, still no response. Of course, I now know from both of your answers that complex characters will take awhile. Thanks, and I hope for the best.

As far as the world, thanks Talon, that answer helps alot. Angsty's answer helped alot too. I figured that I can combine them a bit. I am creating my world in phases, just like Talon suggested. This will help enormously. Also, I will include a door to my free flowing mind. Then they will have a huge sanctuary world in addition to a mind world where anything can happen. I figure that this will also help in an LD, because I will already have a general layout to go on. There are several races of people in this world, as well as several civilizations. Some are peaceful, and some are hostile. The hostiles must stay outside the sactuary world. It will be interesting to watch some civilizations take over land and some lose it. To watch some civilizations die while others are born.....should be interesting. Of course, some peaceful civilizations live outside the sanctuary too, I guess they will be making treaties. Diplomacy will play a huge role in this world. Should be interesting.

I figure that they can build a house in my sanctuary world (no name yet) and they can live in the dreamscape too. This way they will always have something to fall back on. They can create their own quarters. I am not making any choices whatsoever for them, because I want them to be individual. Even though they could "mess with me" in LDs, I think that the gesture of giving them so much for them might keep them from doing so.

My world is scheduled to be finished tomorrow (yay). If all goes according to plan it will be mid-afternoon to early-evening. I will then copy it on Microsoft Paint or a simple program like that and create a URL for it so that you guys can see the land. It won't be in too much detail, just a territory map much like the maps we use IWL.

Good luck with your LD Angsty, I know that you can do it. You have very high levels of mental ability, as I can see. You will have the LD you want with your character in no time. Would this be your first LD or have you done it before?

By the way, Angsty, hear this one. My characters have been choosing normal names. That is really strange. I met them last night very briefly. They took on the form of normal humans. I gave them the freedom of their own appearance, but that was strance. the male took on the name Jon (it's strange how they picked normal names and appearences) and the female took on the name Mandy (another normal name). That is a strange thing to happen. Your characters take on very unique names. Do they take the form of an average human like mine or a unique form? Thanks in advance Angsty.

I hope that this progresses nicely for everyone.
Tribemaker


Oh my, the thread is rather popular-- ^^ I am happy for all your progress- You're amazingly creative! an I look forward to reading about your world-- It sounds Amazing! XD I hope Mandy and Jon choose to talk to us... :D You seem to be having so much fun making this-- and it's mindblowing that you could create such a complex world so soon-- you must be genious :D

With enthusiasm--
~Talon :D


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Tribemaker wrote:
Well, I have been working around the clock, because school is out and the awards ceremony isn't until tonight, and I got it. I have been working hard, and I have gotten my world well down. The thing to remember is, that it is much more detailed in my mind than it is on this MS Paint file I created to show you guys.

In the Sanctuary, there are 2 main races. They are the Celestian and the Armonian races. The Celestian are basically humans in strange clothing lol. The Armonians are not human. They have Elven roots, and favor them strongly. Both races are at perfect peace with each other. They both maintain a strong military, but that is only to prevent outsiders from intruding into the confines of the sanctuary world. I haven't named the sanctuary world yet, suggestions are welcome lol.

Very very light brown (almost white lol) boxes are Celestian cities/islands. Light blue boxes are Celestian military bases/islands. Yellow boxes are Armonian cities/islands. Red boxes are Armonian military bases/islands. It sounds complicated, but it's easy when you look at it. Those black boxes with words point to the respective main military headquarters of each race.

The center big country box thing (lol it's a country) is a HUGE city the size of planet Earth. It is named Celestia. The boxes in this area are buildings, not cities lol. There are approxamately 6 billion buildings in this city, and most of them stretch HIGH in the sky. You can look straight up and not see the tops of some. The boxes are merely the biggest buildings.

The left country is a stretch of islands. It is named the Arian Islands, named after the person who created CALD in the first place (lol Talon, now people in my world know your name, or your world's name rather). At the entrance to the country (the grey box) is a huge sign saying that the Arian Islands are named after you. The sign says this:

"This sign was erected in order to pay respect to the person who gave Zach the idea to create this world. Talon Arana came up with the CALD method that is responsible for the creation of this world. Her world is called Aria, and in order to pay respect to the person who created the CALD method, this territory shall be known as the Arian Islands."
Thought you might like that Talon.

The third country is a vast forest. It is named Armonia. This was the world that the Armonians came from. Long ago, it was inhabited by wood elves. Now, many years later, it is inhabited by the Armonians. The Armonians are really wood elves whose elven features have been mixed with human ones. Thus their ears aren't as pointy, but they are slightly so. Things like that. They still have all the skills of wood elves though, and are VERY skilled wildcrafters.

Well, here is the link. I know that it's a very vague MS Paint picture, but it is crystal clear in my mind.

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5138/dreamscapewd9 .png


AWWW I am so embarrassed! Thank you so much-- It completely blows my mind that you'd do such a nice thing-- Your world is so complex, and I like your map for it-- Everything is so complex! It's amazing that all this happened so soon!
The military bases are impressive-- and I can see vaguely just how clear it much be in your mind. It's so startlingly good!
Your characters will interact with them I guess... right? It's amazing-- I'd love to hear of your dreams there!

Startled and captivated (flustered as well)
~ A very happy Talon. :3


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PostPosted: Thu 17 May, 2007  Reply with quote

A small progress report:
Yus~ Today, I went kind of lucid, after an agreement that me and Takone would try to get me lucid-- I will elaborate on that conversation tonight in my dream journal.

It seems-- also, that Ghost is a HIGHLY effective character to wake me at certain times-- Yesterday I asked for 5am, or at least around then, I wake and look at the clock-- 5 AM exactly, XD Today, I asked about the same, I got 5:15 or so-- It was cool :D

Takone and I have been getting along much better these days, and Ghost and I had an interesting understanding of each other :D
Ghost also offered to help in the 'getting lucid' process... :3 but the dream was beige-- so I know Takone got me lucid at that one. :D I haven't talked to him about it, but I'll find out before I post my journal--

Lovingly yours,
~Talon


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PostPosted: Thu 17 May, 2007  Reply with quote

Tribemaker wrote:
Well, I have been working around the clock, because school is out and the awards ceremony isn't until tonight, and I got it. I have been working hard, and I have gotten my world well down. The thing to remember is, that it is much more detailed in my mind than it is on this MS Paint file I created to show you guys.

In the Sanctuary, there are 2 main races. They are the Celestian and the Armonian races. The Celestian are basically humans in strange clothing lol. The Armonians are not human. They have Elven roots, and favor them strongly. Both races are at perfect peace with each other. They both maintain a strong military, but that is only to prevent outsiders from intruding into the confines of the sanctuary world. I haven't named the sanctuary world yet, suggestions are welcome lol.

Very very light brown (almost white lol) boxes are Celestian cities/islands. Light blue boxes are Celestian military bases/islands. Yellow boxes are Armonian cities/islands. Red boxes are Armonian military bases/islands. It sounds complicated, but it's easy when you look at it. Those black boxes with words point to the respective main military headquarters of each race.

The center big country box thing (lol it's a country) is a HUGE city the size of planet Earth. It is named Celestia. The boxes in this area are buildings, not cities lol. There are approxamately 6 billion buildings in this city, and most of them stretch HIGH in the sky. You can look straight up and not see the tops of some. The boxes are merely the biggest buildings.

The left country is a stretch of islands. It is named the Arian Islands, named after the person who created CALD in the first place (lol Talon, now people in my world know your name, or your world's name rather). At the entrance to the country (the grey box) is a huge sign saying that the Arian Islands are named after you. The sign says this:

"This sign was erected in order to pay respect to the person who gave Zach the idea to create this world. Talon Arana came up with the CALD method that is responsible for the creation of this world. Her world is called Aria, and in order to pay respect to the person who created the CALD method, this territory shall be known as the Arian Islands."
Thought you might like that Talon.

The third country is a vast forest. It is named Armonia. This was the world that the Armonians came from. Long ago, it was inhabited by wood elves. Now, many years later, it is inhabited by the Armonians. The Armonians are really wood elves whose elven features have been mixed with human ones. Thus their ears aren't as pointy, but they are slightly so. Things like that. They still have all the skills of wood elves though, and are VERY skilled wildcrafters.

Well, here is the link. I know that it's a very vague MS Paint picture, but it is crystal clear in my mind.

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5138/dreamscapewd9 .png



O_O

now i feel compelled to write down the details on my dreamworld(s)

lol but i don't think i'll torture you guys with that lach1


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PostPosted: Thu 17 May, 2007  Reply with quote

Talon Arana wrote:
Soragu wrote:
I want DC's too... cry


Awww... :D Well, all you have to do is make them...! And dream characters come in dreams-- Do you need some help?

-Talon~


No problemo, I'll get a lucid dream eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well, I have been trying for over a year now though.. but that's ok, I'll just visit this place more and get new techniques and stuff.


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PostPosted: Thu 17 May, 2007  Reply with quote

wow Talon. I am still impressed that you have such a close relationship with your characters. It is astounding how they have developed so deeply...very impressive. I love how Takone is so close to you, and I will forever remain a fan of Ghost lol.

By the way Talon, that sanctuary world is only the icing on the cake. A world about 70 times bigger is in development lol.

I am actually going to use CALD and my mind, with this I will be able to have LDs every night. I am refraining from using terms such as "might be" because that might make my subconsious reject my idea. It is combining CALD and a technique that is coming to me slowly, something that might work well with CALD. I'll report tomorrow on the results, it will be spectacular either way.

Talon, I look foward to hearing more status reports. That one you just gave gave me this LD idea. When it works I will tell you about it lol.

With respect for you all and high hopes for CALD...
Tribemaker


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TheRealJollyRoger wrote:
Tribemaker wrote:
Well, I have been working around the clock, because school is out and the awards ceremony isn't until tonight, and I got it. I have been working hard, and I have gotten my world well down. The thing to remember is, that it is much more detailed in my mind than it is on this MS Paint file I created to show you guys.

In the Sanctuary, there are 2 main races. They are the Celestian and the Armonian races. The Celestian are basically humans in strange clothing lol. The Armonians are not human. They have Elven roots, and favor them strongly. Both races are at perfect peace with each other. They both maintain a strong military, but that is only to prevent outsiders from intruding into the confines of the sanctuary world. I haven't named the sanctuary world yet, suggestions are welcome lol.

Very very light brown (almost white lol) boxes are Celestian cities/islands. Light blue boxes are Celestian military bases/islands. Yellow boxes are Armonian cities/islands. Red boxes are Armonian military bases/islands. It sounds complicated, but it's easy when you look at it. Those black boxes with words point to the respective main military headquarters of each race.

The center big country box thing (lol it's a country) is a HUGE city the size of planet Earth. It is named Celestia. The boxes in this area are buildings, not cities lol. There are approxamately 6 billion buildings in this city, and most of them stretch HIGH in the sky. You can look straight up and not see the tops of some. The boxes are merely the biggest buildings.

The left country is a stretch of islands. It is named the Arian Islands, named after the person who created CALD in the first place (lol Talon, now people in my world know your name, or your world's name rather). At the entrance to the country (the grey box) is a huge sign saying that the Arian Islands are named after you. The sign says this:

"This sign was erected in order to pay respect to the person who gave Zach the idea to create this world. Talon Arana came up with the CALD method that is responsible for the creation of this world. Her world is called Aria, and in order to pay respect to the person who created the CALD method, this territory shall be known as the Arian Islands."
Thought you might like that Talon.

The third country is a vast forest. It is named Armonia. This was the world that the Armonians came from. Long ago, it was inhabited by wood elves. Now, many years later, it is inhabited by the Armonians. The Armonians are really wood elves whose elven features have been mixed with human ones. Thus their ears aren't as pointy, but they are slightly so. Things like that. They still have all the skills of wood elves though, and are VERY skilled wildcrafters.

Well, here is the link. I know that it's a very vague MS Paint picture, but it is crystal clear in my mind.

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5138/dreamscapewd9 .png



O_O

now i feel compelled to write down the details on my dreamworld(s)

lol but i don't think i'll torture you guys with that :lol:


XD I know... he's amazing huh? XD I'd like to hear about your dream worlds-- but maybe in another thread cause that may be a bit off topic...^^;
Besides, having stuff in a written format can help develpp stuff as you get ideas~! :D
~Talon


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Soragu wrote:
Talon Arana wrote:
Soragu wrote:
I want DC's too... :`(


Awww... :D Well, all you have to do is make them...! And dream characters come in dreams-- Do you need some help?

-Talon~


No problemo, I'll get a lucid dream eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well, I have been trying for over a year now though.. but that's ok, I'll just visit this place more and get new techniques and stuff.


^^ Ok! But if you need any help with CALD, me, or someone equally as knowledgeable can help, I'm sure ^^~

~Talon


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Tribemaker wrote:
wow Talon. I am still impressed that you have such a close relationship with your characters. It is astounding how they have developed so deeply...very impressive. I love how Takone is so close to you, and I will forever remain a fan of Ghost lol.

By the way Talon, that sanctuary world is only the icing on the cake. A world about 70 times bigger is in development lol.

I am actually going to use CALD and my mind, with this I will be able to have LDs every night. I am refraining from using terms such as "might be" because that might make my subconsious reject my idea. It is combining CALD and a technique that is coming to me slowly, something that might work well with CALD. I'll report tomorrow on the results, it will be spectacular either way.

Talon, I look foward to hearing more status reports. That one you just gave gave me this LD idea. When it works I will tell you about it lol.

With respect for you all and high hopes for CALD...
Tribemaker


Thanks you very much! ^^ I love my characters deeply-- and in time I am sure yours will be just a deep if you work at it! :D I told ghost that you were a fan, he told you he appreciates it :D I so look forwards to hearing of your successes and dreams...

~Devotedly yours,
~Talon


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Question: If you don't like your dream world, can you delete it completely and start over? In case I ever get a lucid dream and create my own world and make a mistake..

But please, don't try it out on your own worlds, you might end up losing everything because of me, I don't want to be responsible for something like that.


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Soragu wrote:
Question: If you don't like your dream world, can you delete it completely and start over? In case I ever get a lucid dream and create my own world and make a mistake..

But please, don't try it out on your own worlds, you might end up losing everything because of me, I don't want to be responsible for something like that.


XD Generally-- dream worlds occur randomly-- its a few on this site who create theirs consiously and apply it ( or rather go to) to your lucids ^^
Consciously-- you can create and delete whatever you like with no consequences... So I guess it's safe to delete and save-- since it's all memory you can restore it if you like... XD You can have several to chose from even! It's all your imagination ^^

~Talon


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The only way to delete something from your mind is to stop thinking about it, and remove everything from your enviroment which will remind you, and even then along the way something could still remind you and bring it all back smile

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I think that it is simple to erase it. Well, to "erase" something from your mind, specifically your subconsious, is next to impossible. However, you can choose not to use that world. In a lucid dream, you choose your world. If you don't like it, then create a new world. If you want to go back to the old one, then go back. You can do absolutely ANYTHING in a lucid dream. I can't stress that enough in situations like these. If you want to create a new world, then create a new world. If you want to bring your old world back, then go for it. The old world is stored in your subconsious. We can't "lose everything" because of trying out what you said. I could burn my world to the ground, and then bring it back instantly. Don't worry then. If you are new to lucidity, then let me give you this tip that is the key to what happens inside your lucid dream. This is the key inside a lucid dream.

"If you belive that anything can happen, then anything can happen. If you don't believe that anything can happen, then nothing can happen."

Hope this helps
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2007  Reply with quote

VisionDreamz wrote:
The only way to delete something from your mind is to stop thinking about it, and remove everything from your enviroment which will remind you, and even then along the way something could still remind you and bring it all back :)


XD That's true, but dream worlds would be easier unless you wrote them down right? The same with normals dreams you don't write-- XD

Hiya~!
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