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PostPosted: Wed 24 Oct, 2007  Reply with quote

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haha Mohegan, you make a lot of sense in a way. I have to say that the whole Dumbeldore is gay thing is really stupid. I mean why is everyone making such a big deal out of it! He's just a character! And I don't think it will help homophoic people to get past their fear , I mean we don't look at the characters in terms of their sexual orientation, just simply their personalities.

So Dumbeldore could be a transexual for all I care, the matter of the fact is, he was the headmaster at hogwarts and wanted to do the right thing and help potter, blah blah blah.


Exactly, therefore equating homosexuals and heterosexuals.
I think it was either a brilliant move on her part, her revealing one of her thousands of facts that we don't know but she does, or just her having a bit of fun.


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov, 2007  Reply with quote

grrr She messed up the last book, then after I finished it she anounce Dumbldore was gay, it was deffinatly her just having fun and trying to make people mad. There is no hints to dumbldore being gay in the earlier books. She is just tring to get more people mad at her, and the timing is wierd, maybe she did that so the movies would fail

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov, 2007  Reply with quote

Whoa, man! Get ahold of yourself! First off, there are no hints to old Albus being gay because there are no hints to anything whatsoever: Jo is a lame writer, her books work on a deus ex machina basis. Second: seriously, what's with the homophobia? eh

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov, 2007  Reply with quote

I couldn't care less if Dumbledore is gay, its just that JK Rowling timed that on purpose, to get people mad, maybe so the movies fail.

And what is Duex ex Machina


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Nov, 2007  Reply with quote

Whoa, Dumbledore is gay? Did I miss something?

Or maybe it's just been too long since I've read Deathly Hallows.


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Nov, 2007  Reply with quote

Somnio Forte wrote:
Whoa, Dumbledore is gay? Did I miss something?

Or maybe it's just been too long since I've read Deathly Hallows.


JK said that she thought of Dumbledore in a homosexual way at a book reading in the states.


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Not going to lie, I thought her declaration of Dumbledore was pretty funny. Unsuspected and completely out of left field. There wasn't much point in it I thought. I mean, if she was going to do it, she should've included into the books as well. Slow on replying to this topic, but there's my thoughts on it, hahaha.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

I think it was brave of her to announce dumbledore was gay wink ... after she made her sales and leaving the people making the movies in the crossfire.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Why is it leaving the people involved in the movies in the crossfire? You keep saying that, but I don't really get what you mean.

Ugh, the last movie by them was terrible anyways.


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

all the movies are terrible. Book > to > film usually are.

Dumbledore being gay isn't exactly a surprise anyway, it makes the whole Grindelwald thing make a lot more sense.


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

There is a set of movies.

Now here is my explaniation

JK Rowling announces Dumbledore is gay. now there is plenty of people ready to boycott the books and everything (trust me there are a lot of people who are mad considering it is pretty much a children's book) But whats this!!! She is done writing books so she has all the money she wants because she gets paid before the movie series was made anyway. Now, a high percentage of people who go to movies are children. Now a lot of those children won't be going, so now the the movies will do horribal and they probaly won't find it is worth it to continue making movies.

All I was saying was I thought that was cowardly to announce Dumbledore was gay after she has made all the money she wants.


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Chuck, I don't know how it is where you live, it sure seems different from down here in Brazil... but my thoughts were quite the opposite: that she raised the new polemics just so as to rise her book sales! And, indeed, most of what I heard all around was people either giving her huzzahs or otherwise compelled to buy the last book.

I didn't see anyone mad, or wanting to boycott her, I seriously didn't. eh In fact, when I first read your messages, I didn't understand you were talking about other people, and thought you were the one acting homophobic — and one person being homophobic was already one too much in my head, I didn't think there still were places in the West with lynching homophobic mobs... I mean, that sounds so 60 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

1 out of 30 kids are prevented by there parents from reading the books or watching the movies as it is where I live. I can only imagine what it is like now. And all I was saying was that I think it is cowardly to announce Dumbledore is gay after she has made all the money

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

But d'you think she had designed him to be gay from the beginning? The books clearly state otherwise; Jo Rowling, the queen of hints and nuances, never gave a single pointer to that. It was a marketing strategy, or a misunderstood piece of British humour, or something— but not really something that had been true to her all along, definitely not.

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Dec, 2007  Reply with quote

Bruno wrote:
But d'you think she had designed him to be gay from the beginning? The books clearly state otherwise; Jo Rowling, the queen of hints and nuances, never gave a single pointer to that. It was a marketing strategy, or a misunderstood piece of British humour, or something— but not really something that had been true to her all along, definitely not.


I think she had it in her head for a while.
There was a TV special on her and her books.
If you have seen the amount of research that won't even make it into the books that she has, wow. She has a book with everybody in Harry's year and what subject they like, blood line, parents job, everything. I think it wasn't a spur of the moment thing when she announced that she had always thought of Dumbledore as gay.

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My truthful answer to you. I always thought of Dumbledore as gay.

Her quote leads the reader to believe that she has had it in her head for a while.


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